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The new AMD 6000 mobile chips are also getting very good reviews and seem to be the equal of Intel 12th gen. I'm actually really excited to see what Intel, AMD,

by qzw 4y ago

The new AMD 6000 mobile chips are also getting very good reviews and seem to be the equal of Intel 12th gen. I'm actually really excited to see what Intel, AMD, and all the other non-Apple ARM chip vendors bring to the table in the next 2-3 years. After the M1, these other companies must all have been burning the midnight oil to try to catch up.

rowanG077 4y ago
The AMD 6000 is better I'd say. For example the 6800u trades blows with the 1260P. But the 1260p runs MUCH hotter. And that is not even disregarding the iGPU where the 6800u totally smashes the 1260p.
benreesman 4y ago
My newest AMD box is a Zen3 (I think) Threadripper, and it’s a heavy little computer no doubt. But I find myself using the i9-12000K way more often. It clocks to 5-ish GHz on 8 Gracemont cores without making much if any noise, and DDR5 makes a shockingly big difference. And it’s “build a box with Best Buy parts for 1-2 thousand bucks” cheap. Zen4 is supposed to be a monster and I’m kinda waiting to see how that looks, but I’m always looking for a bargain: does AMD sell a “gaming” chip competitive with the Alder Lake stuff?
- erik 4y ago
  > Zen4 is supposed to be a monster and I’m kinda waiting to see how that looks, but I’m always looking for a bargain: does AMD sell a “gaming” chip competitive with the Alder Lake stuff? The Ryzen 7 5800x3d trades blows with Intel's top chip, with many games benefiting enormously from its monster 96mb L3 cache. It will be superseded by the upcoming Zen4 chips, but the nice thing about the 5800x3d is that it's a drop in upgrade for most AM4 motherboards.
philistine 4y ago
The ARM chip manufacturers have been competing with Apple since 2010. In the 18 months since Apple unveiled its first ARM computers, nothing has been released that is a serious response. Which tells you everything you need to know; the fact Apple puts its chips in a different chassis has changed nothing for those companies.
- benreesman 4y ago
  Apple has to your point differentiated in micro architecture. Having the whole slab of TSMC’s best new process locked-in until the heat death of the universe doesn’t hurt.
  - microtonal 4y ago
    Have you seen how far Qualcomm/Samsung are behind? Samsung S22 Ultra (2022): GeekBench 5 single core: 934, multi-core: 2925 iPhone 13 (2022): GeekBench 5 single core: 1706, multi-core: 4661 That's not just TSMC's best process node. Oh, and the CPU of the S22 Ultra is made on Samsung's 4nm process.
    - benreesman 4y ago
      Hey I know the PA Semi people are ballers. 5-wide dispatch on the M1? Ambitious and they pulled it off. Hot shit. Having the best transistors always doesnt hurt.

by qzw 4y ago

rowanG077 4y ago

The AMD 6000 is better I'd say. For example the 6800u trades blows with the 1260P. But the 1260p runs MUCH hotter. And that is not even disregarding the iGPU where the 6800u totally smashes the 1260p.

benreesman 4y ago

My newest AMD box is a Zen3 (I think) Threadripper, and it’s a heavy little computer no doubt. But I find myself using the i9-12000K way more often. It clocks to 5-ish GHz on 8 Gracemont cores without making much if any noise, and DDR5 makes a shockingly big difference. And it’s “build a box with Best Buy parts for 1-2 thousand bucks” cheap. Zen4 is supposed to be a monster and I’m kinda waiting to see how that looks, but I’m always looking for a bargain: does AMD sell a “gaming” chip competitive with the Alder Lake stuff?

erik 4y ago
> Zen4 is supposed to be a monster and I’m kinda waiting to see how that looks, but I’m always looking for a bargain: does AMD sell a “gaming” chip competitive with the Alder Lake stuff? The Ryzen 7 5800x3d trades blows with Intel's top chip, with many games benefiting enormously from its monster 96mb L3 cache. It will be superseded by the upcoming Zen4 chips, but the nice thing about the 5800x3d is that it's a drop in upgrade for most AM4 motherboards.

philistine 4y ago

The ARM chip manufacturers have been competing with Apple since 2010. In the 18 months since Apple unveiled its first ARM computers, nothing has been released that is a serious response. Which tells you everything you need to know; the fact Apple puts its chips in a different chassis has changed nothing for those companies.

benreesman 4y ago
Apple has to your point differentiated in micro architecture. Having the whole slab of TSMC’s best new process locked-in until the heat death of the universe doesn’t hurt.
- microtonal 4y ago
  Have you seen how far Qualcomm/Samsung are behind? Samsung S22 Ultra (2022): GeekBench 5 single core: 934, multi-core: 2925 iPhone 13 (2022): GeekBench 5 single core: 1706, multi-core: 4661 That's not just TSMC's best process node. Oh, and the CPU of the S22 Ultra is made on Samsung's 4nm process.
  - benreesman 4y ago
    Hey I know the PA Semi people are ballers. 5-wide dispatch on the M1? Ambitious and they pulled it off. Hot shit. Having the best transistors always doesnt hurt.