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Your annual cost is $0, tbf
by texasbigdata 4y ago
Your annual cost is $0, tbf
- wahnfrieden 4y ago0 justification for privacy abuse, tbf As a user have no debt to them just because they offer something for free. Maybe you psychologically feel that way (reciprocity is a common psychological effect that is exploited in marketing)
- blantonl 4y agoWhat is your expectation then? There is a really simple explanation to this: vote with your feet and don't use Facebook. This is akin to you saying you hate McDonalds hamburgers and then you grudgingly march on into McDonalds every Friday and order one. Make your own hamburgers dude.
- wahnfrieden 4y agodon't care
- aaomidi 4y agoSame way we have dealt with industry bad actors for hundreds of years. Regulations.
- noisy_boy 4y agoThat argument doesn't work in light of shadow profile etc.
- xigoi 4y agoWhat if all your friends were going to McDonald's and refused to enter any other restaurant? Would it be easy to stop spending time with them just so you don't have to go to McDonald's?
- blantonl 4y agoYour ability to participate is also optional.
- blue_cookeh 4y agoDebatable given it's well known Facebook are tracking users not logged in or even signed up to their services.
- boesboes 4y agoUntil you cannot contact companies and organizations via anything but facebook and whatsapp. I've stopped using facebook 10 years ago and have ran into this several times. A lot of information is only available on facebook. Also, your argument is basically vicitim blaming imo
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- aaomidi 4y agoI’m not responsible for the business decisions Facebook makes. It’s their choice to make it $0. Can I pay if I wanted to? No.
- lucasyvas 4y agoI don't agree. If the data is worth something, I think they owe its users a share of it. So I'd argue the users are being forced to leave money on the table and it's actually a negative transaction.
- googlryas 4y agoThe users get a share of it by being able to use Facebook for free
- wahnfrieden 4y agoaka a shit deal
- googlryas 4y agoIt's entirely their choice to make.
- wahnfrieden 4y agolol ok, the off topic libertarian response
- googlryas 4y agoEntering an agreement with expected benefits for both parties isn't some libertarian concept.
- CRConrad 4y agoBut the well-informed player playing up the percieved benefits to, and hiding the not-directly-monetary costs for, the chump[1], that very much is. (Well, it's an arsehole-capitalist concept, but isn't that pretty much what "libertarian" means in practice nowadays?) ___ [1]: User, product, whatever you want to call them.
- dredmorbius 4y agoFacebook's 2021 revenues were $117 billion, virtually all advertising income. That comes from products advertised through FB, most of which are marketed toward the roughly 1 billion wealthiest residents of the world: US, EU, Japan, and a few other rich countries. Some complex maths suggests this works out to $117 per individual ($468 for a household of four), whether or not they use Facebook. Facebook is not without costs, either in direct monetary support or externalised costs of the network. Facebook tracks individuals outside of its platform, including those who do not have accounts on the platform at all. The fact that participation has no gated cost is an intentional design of the system --- Facebooks users are the product sold to Facebook's customers, the advertisers. People have a right to criticize and protest independent of whether they are customer, product, unwilling supporter, or collateral damage.
- KineticLensman 4y ago> Facebook's 2021 revenues were $117 billion > Some complex maths suggests this works out to $117 billion per individual I think you might need some slightly more complex maths
- dredmorbius 4y agoWups, typo. Corrected. Thanks. Point remains that FB extracts a real and significant direct monetary cost.
- zeroonetwothree 4y agoAdvertising isn’t always negative. For example it could alert you to new valuable products or services. Moreover if not FB then advertisers would just go somewhere else. It’s not like it’s the only option for ads.
- KoftaBob 4y agoThey can show ads to users in exchange for the users getting a service for free, without being incredibly intrusive in how they target ads.