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What I've never received is an explanation of why we expect women and men to equally represented in all positions across the economy, but are ok with prisoners

What I've never received is an explanation of why we expect women and men to equally represented in all positions across the economy, but are ok with prisoners being close to 10:1 in favor of men.

n4r9 4y ago
I don't think anyone sees the gender disparity in incarceration and thinks "this is fine and normal". There is a lot of research going into understanding the causes, and effort going into programmes that combat young male delinquency etc... .
onion2k 4y ago
Are you suggesting we encourage women to commit more crime? Maybe they do, but they're better at getting away with it...
seibelj 4y ago
It’s called the Gender Equality Paradox https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-equality_paradox https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-equality_paradox Research shows that when there is more gender equality in countries, the self selection for certain occupations by gender increases. This could lead you to believe there is something fundamentally different about men and women that makes them on average choose different careers.
- anon291 4y ago
  The thing on average that's different between men and women is that women bear children and are then flooded with hormones that make them want to stay home, whereas a male sexually imprinted on a woman with a child wants to shower resources on the mother. Research has shown how both sexes hormones change with respect to having a child, and this is pretty much how things work. Why we should expect this to not have societal implications is beyond me. Too many articles talk about sex without talking about children, which is ridiculous, because children are an incredibly common human experience.
  - civilized 4y ago
    It'd take a bit to find specific examples but I feel like I've seen a lot of research over the past few years that says various dimensions of gender inequality are statistically non-existent prior to motherhood, and open up wide at precisely that point.
Ekaros 4y ago
And no one ever discusses what should be done so workplace deaths were equal between genders. It clearly is a field we have lot to do.
- bradlys 4y ago
  And we’re definitely not gonna touch on the 4x self-inflicted death rate that men have over women just generally.
  - mbg721 4y ago
    Geez, this point of view of humanity makes it sound surprising that our species still exists.

What I've never received is an explanation of why we expect women and men to equally represented in all positions across the economy, but are ok with prisoners being close to 10:1 in favor of men.

n4r9 4y ago

I don't think anyone sees the gender disparity in incarceration and thinks "this is fine and normal". There is a lot of research going into understanding the causes, and effort going into programmes that combat young male delinquency etc... .

onion2k 4y ago

Are you suggesting we encourage women to commit more crime? Maybe they do, but they're better at getting away with it...

seibelj 4y ago

It’s called the Gender Equality Paradox https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-equality_paradox https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-equality_paradox Research shows that when there is more gender equality in countries, the self selection for certain occupations by gender increases. This could lead you to believe there is something fundamentally different about men and women that makes them on average choose different careers.

anon291 4y ago
The thing on average that's different between men and women is that women bear children and are then flooded with hormones that make them want to stay home, whereas a male sexually imprinted on a woman with a child wants to shower resources on the mother. Research has shown how both sexes hormones change with respect to having a child, and this is pretty much how things work. Why we should expect this to not have societal implications is beyond me. Too many articles talk about sex without talking about children, which is ridiculous, because children are an incredibly common human experience.
- civilized 4y ago
  It'd take a bit to find specific examples but I feel like I've seen a lot of research over the past few years that says various dimensions of gender inequality are statistically non-existent prior to motherhood, and open up wide at precisely that point.

Ekaros 4y ago

And no one ever discusses what should be done so workplace deaths were equal between genders. It clearly is a field we have lot to do.

bradlys 4y ago
And we’re definitely not gonna touch on the 4x self-inflicted death rate that men have over women just generally.
- mbg721 4y ago
  Geez, this point of view of humanity makes it sound surprising that our species still exists.