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You certainly don't need the slightly faster SSD, I bet most people would never notice the difference.

bigDinosaur 4y ago
They shouldn't be offering 256GB on the base model given the price rise (arguably at all, even on the M1 MBA). Let alone making it slower by default.
- theplumber 4y ago
  They want you to buy more cloud services/storage.
  - votepaunchy 4y ago
    But that’s not how iCloud storage works. Or any other consumer cloud storage. You have a copy in the cloud whether or not a copy is on the computer, and unlike commercial clouds do not pay for data transfer.
    - theplumber 4y ago
      I'm not sure what's your point. Apple makes local storage as expensive as possible/acceptable so that you buy more icloud storage for your files, photos etc and "stream" your content from the cloud instead to keep it stored locally. It's not secret that they see the "services" as being the biggest growth factor.
    - karmakaze 4y ago
      That's not how the 'iPhone full' message describes it.
jhot 4y ago
Been using an M2 Pro for a week (16GB RAM, 256GB SSD), absolutely cannot tell. Large dependency installs (node, go, c++, python) are insanely fast, docker builds are fast, everything is just fast.
- pleb_nz 4y ago
  I've been on Linux until I got an M1Pro. Docker build on mac's, even M1Pro are slow IMO compared to Linux.
  - fragmede 4y ago
    Have you enabled VirtioFS in docker?
    - pleb_nz 4y ago
      Yeah I have. Made a big difference. But not Linux fast difference.
ksec 4y ago
You definitely will on an 8GB machine under memory pressure. Which happens more often than people imagine if you are using a number of Electron Apps.
sys_64738 4y ago
This is the type of response of acceptance I totally disagree with. You're happy that Apple are selling you a throttled base revision but Apple is actually taking the piss. The ability to double the SSD capacity by adding the missing chip would only cost Apple three bucks. It's intentional hobbling of the platform. That they do the same dirty trick with the so called MacBook Pro is shameful. The MBP is not a Professional machine. When you can buy a DELL with 6x the SSD speed you realize that Apple SSD solutions a dumpster fire.

They shouldn't be offering 256GB on the base model given the price rise (arguably at all, even on the M1 MBA). Let alone making it slower by default.

theplumber 4y ago
They want you to buy more cloud services/storage.
- votepaunchy 4y ago
  But that’s not how iCloud storage works. Or any other consumer cloud storage. You have a copy in the cloud whether or not a copy is on the computer, and unlike commercial clouds do not pay for data transfer.
  - theplumber 4y ago
    I'm not sure what's your point. Apple makes local storage as expensive as possible/acceptable so that you buy more icloud storage for your files, photos etc and "stream" your content from the cloud instead to keep it stored locally. It's not secret that they see the "services" as being the biggest growth factor.
  - karmakaze 4y ago
    That's not how the 'iPhone full' message describes it.

jhot 4y ago

Been using an M2 Pro for a week (16GB RAM, 256GB SSD), absolutely cannot tell. Large dependency installs (node, go, c++, python) are insanely fast, docker builds are fast, everything is just fast.

pleb_nz 4y ago
I've been on Linux until I got an M1Pro. Docker build on mac's, even M1Pro are slow IMO compared to Linux.
- fragmede 4y ago
  Have you enabled VirtioFS in docker?
  - pleb_nz 4y ago
    Yeah I have. Made a big difference. But not Linux fast difference.

ksec 4y ago

You definitely will on an 8GB machine under memory pressure. Which happens more often than people imagine if you are using a number of Electron Apps.

sys_64738 4y ago

This is the type of response of acceptance I totally disagree with. You're happy that Apple are selling you a throttled base revision but Apple is actually taking the piss. The ability to double the SSD capacity by adding the missing chip would only cost Apple three bucks. It's intentional hobbling of the platform. That they do the same dirty trick with the so called MacBook Pro is shameful. The MBP is not a Professional machine. When you can buy a DELL with 6x the SSD speed you realize that Apple SSD solutions a dumpster fire.