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What are the statistics for those?

altfredd 4y ago
The statistics are as following: Huawei made a few 1000 usd smartphones, but nearly went bankrupt and had to sell their mobile division.
- polskibus 4y ago
  Did they sell everything mobile or just the Honor brand?
- fauigerzigerk 4y ago
  Huawei's fate had nothing to do with markets or with the price of their phones though.
fauigerzigerk 4y ago
So for 2021 the revenue share is Apple 44% Samsung 16% BBK Electronics 16% (Oppo/OnePlus/Realme 8%, Vivo 8%) Xiaomi 8% Others 16% That's according to Counterpoint Research [1] Profitability appears to be even more skewed in favour of Apple but I don't know the exact numbers. It would be interesting to know what's included in that 16% others category as that's where any challengers would be coming from. [1] https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-revenue-hits-record-450-billion-2021-apple-captures-highest-ever-share-q4-2021/ https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-reven...
- fomine3 4y ago
  Note that OPPO/OnePlus/Realme isn't BBK, as original report distinguishes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27871845 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27871845
  - fauigerzigerk 4y ago
    Wikipedia claims that BBK is the parent company of Oppo and Vivo, in the case of Oppo based on this government source: https://web.archive.org/web/20160423202414/http://www.dg.gov.cn/gjhycs/s33353/201206/514125.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20160423202414/http://www.dg.gov... Unfortunately, I don't know what the authoritative source for company information is in China. It can't be blog posts and media reports I suppose.
    - fomine3 4y ago
      Interesting. I found OPPO and vivo's official response for a question. It seems that it should be distinguished for statistics, though they share origin and founders. https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/557027909615399132.html https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/557027909615399132.html https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/1606300474779701827.html https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/1606300474779701827.html

The statistics are as following: Huawei made a few 1000 usd smartphones, but nearly went bankrupt and had to sell their mobile division.

polskibus 4y ago
Did they sell everything mobile or just the Honor brand?
fauigerzigerk 4y ago
Huawei's fate had nothing to do with markets or with the price of their phones though.

fauigerzigerk 4y ago

So for 2021 the revenue share is Apple 44% Samsung 16% BBK Electronics 16% (Oppo/OnePlus/Realme 8%, Vivo 8%) Xiaomi 8% Others 16% That's according to Counterpoint Research [1] Profitability appears to be even more skewed in favour of Apple but I don't know the exact numbers. It would be interesting to know what's included in that 16% others category as that's where any challengers would be coming from. [1] https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-revenue-hits-record-450-billion-2021-apple-captures-highest-ever-share-q4-2021/ https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-reven...

fomine3 4y ago
Note that OPPO/OnePlus/Realme isn't BBK, as original report distinguishes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27871845 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27871845
- fauigerzigerk 4y ago
  Wikipedia claims that BBK is the parent company of Oppo and Vivo, in the case of Oppo based on this government source: https://web.archive.org/web/20160423202414/http://www.dg.gov.cn/gjhycs/s33353/201206/514125.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20160423202414/http://www.dg.gov... Unfortunately, I don't know what the authoritative source for company information is in China. It can't be blog posts and media reports I suppose.
  - fomine3 4y ago
    Interesting. I found OPPO and vivo's official response for a question. It seems that it should be distinguished for statistics, though they share origin and founders. https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/557027909615399132.html https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/557027909615399132.html https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/1606300474779701827.html https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/1606300474779701827.html