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> Reminds me of when in March 2020 I was also told I didn't know what I was talking about when I pointed out how a Covid vaccine could be made available in 6 mo

> Reminds me of when in March 2020 I was also told I didn't know what I was talking about when I pointed out how a Covid vaccine could be made available in 6 months rather than the conventional 18 minimum times. The vaccines were available in 7 months. Conventional vaccines are sterilizing, have good safety records, and protection in years, or decades. This "vaccine" is none of above. These MRNA "vaccines" required a change in the definition of a vaccine, and have atrocious safety records. The new Novavax vaccine [1], which is a conventional vaccine, may prove to have much longer effectiveness period, and not require boosters every 3 months. It also took much longer to develop. [1] https://www.novavax.com/science-technology/recombinant-protein-based-nanoparticle-vaccine-technology https://www.novavax.com/science-technology/recombinant-prote...

WalterBright 4y ago
The vaccine probably saved a million lives in the US alone. It's great that newer, vaccines are being developed. But in the meantime, the Novavax vaccine is not available. I'll take the one that is available. I'm not really interested in dying waiting for the perfect vaccine.
DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
> Conventional vaccines are sterilizing Many vaccines do not provide sterilizing immunity. Just to give one random example: flu vaccines do not provide sterilizing immunity. > have good safety records The various SARS-CoV-2 vaccines have very good safety records. They've been administered to billions of people, and the rates of serious side-effects are on the order on one per several hundred thousand - orders of magnitude lower than the rate of serious complications from infection. > The new Novavax vaccine, which is a conventional vaccine I don't know how you're defining "conventional" here, but Novavax also uses a new vaccine platform.
- OrvalWintermute 4y ago
  > The various SARS-CoV-2 vaccines have very good safety records. They've been administered to billions of people, and the rates of serious side-effects are on the order on one per several hundred thousand - orders of magnitude lower than the rate of serious complications from infection. I know 2 people with severe adverse events from the vaxx. Considering how many vaccinations I have received my life due to military service, that is an order of magnitude worse than any vaccination, ever.

WalterBright 4y ago

The vaccine probably saved a million lives in the US alone. It's great that newer, vaccines are being developed. But in the meantime, the Novavax vaccine is not available. I'll take the one that is available. I'm not really interested in dying waiting for the perfect vaccine.

DiogenesKynikos 4y ago

> Conventional vaccines are sterilizing Many vaccines do not provide sterilizing immunity. Just to give one random example: flu vaccines do not provide sterilizing immunity. > have good safety records The various SARS-CoV-2 vaccines have very good safety records. They've been administered to billions of people, and the rates of serious side-effects are on the order on one per several hundred thousand - orders of magnitude lower than the rate of serious complications from infection. > The new Novavax vaccine, which is a conventional vaccine I don't know how you're defining "conventional" here, but Novavax also uses a new vaccine platform.

OrvalWintermute 4y ago
> The various SARS-CoV-2 vaccines have very good safety records. They've been administered to billions of people, and the rates of serious side-effects are on the order on one per several hundred thousand - orders of magnitude lower than the rate of serious complications from infection. I know 2 people with severe adverse events from the vaxx. Considering how many vaccinations I have received my life due to military service, that is an order of magnitude worse than any vaccination, ever.