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I bet John Deere knows all this as well since their tractors can provided that data right back to them. Scary to think your tractor letting them know when to ti

I bet John Deere knows all this as well since their tractors can provided that data right back to them. Scary to think your tractor letting them know when to time food stocks, fertilizer, etc or just sell the data to third parties.

thriftwy 4y ago
I don't think Belarus or Rostselmash tractors produce too much data for John Deere (you will never know, though).
bluGill 4y ago
As a John Deere employee I'll confirm we have this data. We also have strict rules about getting access to it, because we are well aware that value comes directly out of our customers potential profit and their profit is what determines how much they buy from us next year. There is someone with access to that data (dB administrators). They are registered with the SEC as someone not allowed to trade go ensure there is no temptation to look at it. I don't speak for the company above.
- post_break 4y ago
  Do you think this is good or bad? Frankly the fact that the data is available seems ridiculous to me. Nothing stopping an administrator from pulling a Pelosi and having their significant other to feed the data elsewhere.
  - bluGill 4y ago
    I'm not sure what you are asking. If the data goes from the tractor to the internet it pretty much has to go to cloud computers, and that means someone is admin of those computers and can look at it. (Running SQL is not hard). We would love for there to be a way for the admins to not have the ability to look at data, but that isn't realistic. Instead we just make it not worthwhile (i'm not sure if someone can pull a Pelosi). I don't work in that division so I have no idea what other protections might be in place. 10 years ago farmers used memory cards for this so it didn't cross the internet. Some are remote enough that they can't get even 2g signal and still do that, but most are happy it is just done for them. Though one of the big drivers for farmers to do this is seed companies gave customers a large discount if they share data with them. The seed companies say they use it only to see how different genetics work in the real world, but any farmer sharing with them has to trust them.

thriftwy 4y ago

I don't think Belarus or Rostselmash tractors produce too much data for John Deere (you will never know, though).

bluGill 4y ago

As a John Deere employee I'll confirm we have this data. We also have strict rules about getting access to it, because we are well aware that value comes directly out of our customers potential profit and their profit is what determines how much they buy from us next year. There is someone with access to that data (dB administrators). They are registered with the SEC as someone not allowed to trade go ensure there is no temptation to look at it. I don't speak for the company above.

post_break 4y ago
Do you think this is good or bad? Frankly the fact that the data is available seems ridiculous to me. Nothing stopping an administrator from pulling a Pelosi and having their significant other to feed the data elsewhere.
- bluGill 4y ago
  I'm not sure what you are asking. If the data goes from the tractor to the internet it pretty much has to go to cloud computers, and that means someone is admin of those computers and can look at it. (Running SQL is not hard). We would love for there to be a way for the admins to not have the ability to look at data, but that isn't realistic. Instead we just make it not worthwhile (i'm not sure if someone can pull a Pelosi). I don't work in that division so I have no idea what other protections might be in place. 10 years ago farmers used memory cards for this so it didn't cross the internet. Some are remote enough that they can't get even 2g signal and still do that, but most are happy it is just done for them. Though one of the big drivers for farmers to do this is seed companies gave customers a large discount if they share data with them. The seed companies say they use it only to see how different genetics work in the real world, but any farmer sharing with them has to trust them.