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Why 8kun Went Offline During the January 6 Hearings
- h2odragon 4y ago
- throwawaybutwhy 4y agoWell, we know Krebs is a part 'social engineering hacktivist' part internet mobster. Does it really matter when SC judges are harassed and stalked?
- atkailash 4y agoIf they want privacy they shouldn’t be a public figure and trample on others’ privacy. And protesting isn’t harassment.
- triyambakam 4y agoYou are shadow banned. Try checking your comments in incognito mode
- ipaddr 4y agoProtesting can be a form of harassment and it can be abused. Some places have laws around where you can protest like in front of abortion clinics.
- KennyBlanken 4y agoOne of the reasons people are angry is because the supreme court ruled that anti-choice protesters were legally entitled to protest in front of doctor's homes. But protesting in front of supreme court justice's homes is apparently not legal...
- deleted 4y ago[deleted]
- superchroma 4y agoYep, he definitely leans on the side of being a goon pretending to be internet police. It shouldn't be forgotten how he doxxed those teens on tenuous evidence. I hope someday he runs afoul of the law himself and reins in this nasty habit. Vigilante 'justice' by means of inciting hate mobs is not to be encouraged.
- smoldesu 4y agoCloser to "rule of capitalism". Whoever signed that deal probably agreed to an at-will service that could be terminated at any time by either party. If Psychz makes the decision to avoid fallout and cut them off their network, that's their call. They have no obligation to serve a customer that they see as a liability.
- GenerocUsername 4y agoBake that cake citizen
- anigbrowl 4y agoNobody said it was. What's your point here?
- quantified 4y agoLaw protects valid contracts. If terminating the service was valid under the contract, nothing more to say. If it was a breach of contract, law protects the right to sue for damages.
- rocket_surgeron 4y agoFreedom of assembly. You are free to assemble with whoever you please. You are also free to un-assemble, and nobody can force you to assemble if you don't want to. It's the part of the 1st amendment that everyone forgets or willfully pretends doesn't exist because they want to force private parties to carry their hateful, bigoted messages. Freedom!
- BitwiseFool 4y ago>"You are free to assemble with whoever you please." >"You are also free to un-assemble, and nobody can force you to assemble if you don't want to." We are mostly free to assemble or un-assemble. The government absolutely can "force you to assemble if you don't want to", and that underpins many civil rights and anti-discrimination laws.
- morelisp 4y agoThere's no reason to believe we need to make "conspiratorial shitposter" a protected class. They seem to be doing fine.
- game-of-throws 4y agoThat applies only when all participants are willing. The owner of private property such as a house, restaurant, or hosting service, is allowed to control who may access their property.
- landryraccoon 4y agoWhat laws were broken here?
- deleted 4y ago[deleted]
- toss1 4y ago>>this is not "rule of law". Where does the law require a private (i.e., non-governmental) internet provider to provide service to any customer who shows up, even if carrying that 'customer' would harm their own reputation? Do you think that ISPs are somehow subject to discrimination laws that require public-facing businesses to not discriminate on the basis of race, sex, age, etc., and that 8kun is a person in some such protected class? Do you know for a fact that the provider had no terms of service that 8kun violated? Why do you think you are a better judge of the truth from your seat an the comment forum than those people who actually are in the situation? And, BTW, we might note that 8kun has not been reported to have taken or even threatened any legal action, so maybe, just maybe, this isn't quite the legal question you think it is. sheesh (but thanks for showing how easy it is to lob bad-faith bombs destructive to discourse and how much effort is required to even start to clean up the mess)
- beebmam 4y agoWhy do people believe in these (clearly fabricated) conspiracy theories that 8chan/8kun made so popular? Do people really so desire to kill each other and destroy their societies?
- buildbot 4y agoPeople love feeling special and part of a unique in-group, that might be simply it.
- smrtinsert 4y agoConservative politicians and talking heads have driven into their audiences that the "mainstream media" cannot be trusted and "today's conspiracy theory is tomorrow's news".
- toolz 4y agoI mean the mainstream has done more to promote conspiracy theories than any tabloid regurgitating individual. When you put top experts on TV denouncing things as conspiracy theories that turn out to be valid, you drive more reasonable individuals to wonder what else the tabloids were right about.
- suction 4y agoHow often does that happen though, i.e. "top experts" saying something is a ct but it turns out to be real? I can't think of any examples. Sure, pundits on 24h news are often wrong, but I wouldn't call them top experts, more like hot-take-deliverers. Believe them at your peril.
- toolz 4y agoI'm sure it's rare, but when it does happen it makes waves. The chinese lab leak theory is the first thing that comes to mind, but also the CDC director going on TV to tell the nation if you got vaccinated you wouldn't catch covid, get sick, or spread covid is another that comes to mind. Vaccination rates in children have plummeted, and I suspect if we thought anti-vax rhetoric was bad pre-covid, it's not going to hold a candle to the near future.
- buildbot 4y agoThis kind of hacktivism is what we need more of in my opinion!
- CrazyMusicians 4y agoIt's possible many network operators don't know everyone who's on their networks unless someone specifically brings it to their attention. That seems to be the case here.
- busterarm 4y agoIt's funny that people simultaneously take this position but then also laugh at retailers who are averse to putting their infrastructure in AWS...
- caeril 4y ago> 8kun’s newfound Russian connections will likely hold, but that hardly means Lithuania should stand idly by. I think it's long past due for Krebs to stop referring to himself as a "journalist". Editorializing like this belongs squarely on the opinion page.
- toss1 4y agoConsidering the threats Russia currently makes to Lithuania, and that this is an assessment of the situation, this hardly seems excessive
- KennyBlanken 4y agohttps://krebsonsecurity.com/about/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/about/ Nowhere is the word "journalist" to be found, though his background is more in journalism than tech.
- busterarm 4y agoHe wrote for The Washington Post for 15 years before going out and starting his own news site. If you write for a news site, you are a journalist. And news is right there in the header.
- baisq 4y agoweird flex but ok
- caeril 4y agoReddit-tier comment but nonetheless spot-on. This insufferable guy is taking a victory lap on actively fragmenting the internet along ideological lines.
- michaericalribo 4y agoI think that ship sailed a long time ago…this may be a symptom but is definitely not the cause for fragmentation along ideological lines.