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Stick to Firefox guys.

behnamoh 4y ago
I actually switched from FF to Brave. Much happier with it now. The only thing I miss from FF is PiP for videos, but that can be solved by an extension on Brave.
- t6jvcereio 4y ago
  Sorry, I don't want crypto in my browser.
  - behnamoh 4y ago
    I literally disabled it.
prepend 4y ago
I switched from FireFox to Brave. The UX is just so much better. Launch is faster. Updates are faster (and smaller). And resource load is less. I also like being less entailed with Google and view Brave’s chromium base a lesser evil than FireFox’s funding dependency. For what it’s worth, I don’t care at all about this affiliate hijacking and think it’s actually a benefit that more things should do as long as they don’t break the experience (eg, screw up the rewrites).
- jraph 4y ago
  > I also like being less entailed with Google and view Brave’s chromium base a lesser evil than FireFox’s funding dependency. Right. Instead of relying on funding coming from Google to develop the browser, Brave just uses Google's one directly, which in my opinion is quite equivalent to getting 100% funded by Google for developing the browser. I hope Firefox will be able to get its founding from other entities. Brave, however, is never getting rid of Google and its technical decisions without a rewrite from scratch and is just participating in Google's dominance on the Web. You may like Brave for its technical qualities, but we can't pretend it is better than Firefox wrt dependency on Google. Developing the browser skin is not the hard part, and it is also not the place where the Web desperately needs help. I wish there was a browser that could keep up with the current web and that is not mostly funded by a GAFAM (or a GA, at this point), and Brave isn't one.
- cuteboy19 4y ago
  > view Brave’s chromium base a lesser evil than FireFox’s funding dependency. This is very short-sighted. All chromium forks are an extension of Google Chrome.
  - ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 4y ago
    Chromium is the base. Google Chrome is one browser built on top of it, Brave is another.
    - ocdtrekkie 4y ago
      If Google Chrome wants a feature designed one way, and Brave wants it designed another way, which one is going into Chromium? Pretending Chromium isn't just an open source fork of Chrome is silly, it's just a method of letting a bad actor have it's cake and eat it too: Forcing a proprietary blob down everyone's throat while claiming it's open source because they toss some of it's code over the wall.
      - mixedCase 4y ago
        Which proprietary blob? What are you talking about? Brave is open source, the only proprietary blob I'm aware of is if you request DRM support, in which case it downloads Widevine but it doesn't ship that by default just like Firefox, for the same reasons.
        ocdtrekkie 4y ago
        I was referring to Google Chrome in my comment.
        RobertWHurst 4y ago
        Chromium is open source. They can fork the entire codebase, which I imagine they have done. They likely just cherry-pick changes they want from the upstream.
- scopecreep 4y ago
  Brave browser is literally an intelligence gathering honeypot funded by the guy who created a big data analytics company with an extensive history of working with intelligence services [1]. But yeah. That darn google being the default search provider is very troubling. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies
  - mixedCase 4y ago
    Did you make that up on your own or did you read that somewhere? Here's the source code in case you feel like pointing to the code you believe is doing the "intelligence gathering": https://github.com/brave/brave-browser https://github.com/brave/brave-browser
  - madamelic 4y ago
    You might be confused with something else. Brave was founded by Brandon Eich (created JS, worked at Mozilla) and Brian Bondy who also worked at Mozilla (https://brianbondy.com/resume https://brianbondy.com/resume). Neither have Palantir on their resumes.
- samtheDamned 4y ago
  > I also like being less entailed with Google and view Brave’s chromium base a lesser evil than FireFox’s funding dependency. I don't understand how this makes sense. Running chromium with a skin and some components removed as opposed to a completely independent browser/engine that has proven to not implement features that will reduce user control over ads or tracking (most notably FLOC or Manifest V3) that google is fighting to implement. If you wanted the lesser evil and still believe firefox is evil, then wouldn't a WebKit based browser be the least evil?
- Schroedingersat 4y ago
  The day the firefox rendering engine dies is the day google owns the internet. Firefox may be controlled opposition, but it's better than total monopoly. Plus there are projects like librewolf ypu could direct your attention to.
- t6jvcereio 4y ago
  Sorry, I don't want crypto in my browser.
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I actually switched from FF to Brave. Much happier with it now. The only thing I miss from FF is PiP for videos, but that can be solved by an extension on Brave.

t6jvcereio 4y ago
Sorry, I don't want crypto in my browser.
- behnamoh 4y ago
  I literally disabled it.

prepend 4y ago

I switched from FireFox to Brave. The UX is just so much better. Launch is faster. Updates are faster (and smaller). And resource load is less. I also like being less entailed with Google and view Brave’s chromium base a lesser evil than FireFox’s funding dependency. For what it’s worth, I don’t care at all about this affiliate hijacking and think it’s actually a benefit that more things should do as long as they don’t break the experience (eg, screw up the rewrites).

jraph 4y ago
> I also like being less entailed with Google and view Brave’s chromium base a lesser evil than FireFox’s funding dependency. Right. Instead of relying on funding coming from Google to develop the browser, Brave just uses Google's one directly, which in my opinion is quite equivalent to getting 100% funded by Google for developing the browser. I hope Firefox will be able to get its founding from other entities. Brave, however, is never getting rid of Google and its technical decisions without a rewrite from scratch and is just participating in Google's dominance on the Web. You may like Brave for its technical qualities, but we can't pretend it is better than Firefox wrt dependency on Google. Developing the browser skin is not the hard part, and it is also not the place where the Web desperately needs help. I wish there was a browser that could keep up with the current web and that is not mostly funded by a GAFAM (or a GA, at this point), and Brave isn't one.
cuteboy19 4y ago
> view Brave’s chromium base a lesser evil than FireFox’s funding dependency. This is very short-sighted. All chromium forks are an extension of Google Chrome.
- ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 4y ago
  Chromium is the base. Google Chrome is one browser built on top of it, Brave is another.
  - ocdtrekkie 4y ago
    If Google Chrome wants a feature designed one way, and Brave wants it designed another way, which one is going into Chromium? Pretending Chromium isn't just an open source fork of Chrome is silly, it's just a method of letting a bad actor have it's cake and eat it too: Forcing a proprietary blob down everyone's throat while claiming it's open source because they toss some of it's code over the wall.
    - mixedCase 4y ago
      Which proprietary blob? What are you talking about? Brave is open source, the only proprietary blob I'm aware of is if you request DRM support, in which case it downloads Widevine but it doesn't ship that by default just like Firefox, for the same reasons.
      - ocdtrekkie 4y ago
        I was referring to Google Chrome in my comment.
        RobertWHurst 4y ago
        Chromium is open source. They can fork the entire codebase, which I imagine they have done. They likely just cherry-pick changes they want from the upstream.
scopecreep 4y ago
Brave browser is literally an intelligence gathering honeypot funded by the guy who created a big data analytics company with an extensive history of working with intelligence services [1]. But yeah. That darn google being the default search provider is very troubling. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies
- mixedCase 4y ago
  Did you make that up on your own or did you read that somewhere? Here's the source code in case you feel like pointing to the code you believe is doing the "intelligence gathering": https://github.com/brave/brave-browser https://github.com/brave/brave-browser
- madamelic 4y ago
  You might be confused with something else. Brave was founded by Brandon Eich (created JS, worked at Mozilla) and Brian Bondy who also worked at Mozilla (https://brianbondy.com/resume https://brianbondy.com/resume). Neither have Palantir on their resumes.
samtheDamned 4y ago
> I also like being less entailed with Google and view Brave’s chromium base a lesser evil than FireFox’s funding dependency. I don't understand how this makes sense. Running chromium with a skin and some components removed as opposed to a completely independent browser/engine that has proven to not implement features that will reduce user control over ads or tracking (most notably FLOC or Manifest V3) that google is fighting to implement. If you wanted the lesser evil and still believe firefox is evil, then wouldn't a WebKit based browser be the least evil?
Schroedingersat 4y ago
The day the firefox rendering engine dies is the day google owns the internet. Firefox may be controlled opposition, but it's better than total monopoly. Plus there are projects like librewolf ypu could direct your attention to.
t6jvcereio 4y ago
Sorry, I don't want crypto in my browser.

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