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No. I don't care. I'm happy to hide in the crowd. IMHO any data I generate is basically useless chaff. I still have yet to be convinced that there's a downside

No. I don't care. I'm happy to hide in the crowd. IMHO any data I generate is basically useless chaff. I still have yet to be convinced that there's a downside to this parasitic relationship. How exactly is my life, in a practical way, negatively impacted by this data going walkabout? Does it take years or months off my expected lifespan? Does it give me cavities? Does it turn my family and loved ones against me? Does it slow my typing speed? Point me to a good non-philosophical non-ideological non-emotional argument and I'll spend my time and money on transitioning to non-google sources for my problem-solutions.

sizzle 4y ago
They track your every move when your device pings their servers with your location and that is an invasion of privacy to have this 24/7 log. This is barely scratching the surface, imagine how you are being manipulated with target advertising.
- kleer001 4y ago
  > imagine how you are being manipulated with target advertising Imagination is not the question. I want facts. I can imagine all sorts of stupid. The majority of targeted ads I get are for things I just bought. This is not scary.
shaky-carrousel 4y ago
It can send innocent people to jail: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/03/10/google-data-puts-innocent-man-at-the-scene-of-a-crime/ https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/03/10/google-data-puts...
- wmeredith 4y ago
  I'm sure it can, but in the link you provided it definitely did not.
  - shaky-carrousel 4y ago
    > McCoy was lucky. He and his family are also a bit poorer because of the incident. If his parents hadn’t helped him out by giving him thousands of dollars to hire a lawyer, things could have turned out differently, he says. Out of partly luck and partly a lawyer. He could easily have ended up in jail.
    - kleer001 4y ago
      And that's one example out of hundreds of millions. Still not scary.
- kleer001 4y ago
  And once a cop came home to the wrong apartment and shot a dude. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45632941 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45632941 Food poisoning kills dozens every year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foodborne_illness_outbreaks_by_death_toll https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foodborne_illness_outb... Some estimate that nearly 10% of people in Jail in the states are innocent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocence_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocence_Project Your example is a base rate fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_rate_fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_rate_fallacy aka Extension Neglect : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extension_neglect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extension_neglect "One swallow does not a summer make"

sizzle 4y ago

They track your every move when your device pings their servers with your location and that is an invasion of privacy to have this 24/7 log. This is barely scratching the surface, imagine how you are being manipulated with target advertising.

kleer001 4y ago
> imagine how you are being manipulated with target advertising Imagination is not the question. I want facts. I can imagine all sorts of stupid. The majority of targeted ads I get are for things I just bought. This is not scary.

shaky-carrousel 4y ago

It can send innocent people to jail: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/03/10/google-data-puts-innocent-man-at-the-scene-of-a-crime/ https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/03/10/google-data-puts...

wmeredith 4y ago
I'm sure it can, but in the link you provided it definitely did not.
- shaky-carrousel 4y ago
  > McCoy was lucky. He and his family are also a bit poorer because of the incident. If his parents hadn’t helped him out by giving him thousands of dollars to hire a lawyer, things could have turned out differently, he says. Out of partly luck and partly a lawyer. He could easily have ended up in jail.
  - kleer001 4y ago
    And that's one example out of hundreds of millions. Still not scary.
kleer001 4y ago
And once a cop came home to the wrong apartment and shot a dude. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45632941 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45632941 Food poisoning kills dozens every year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foodborne_illness_outbreaks_by_death_toll https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foodborne_illness_outb... Some estimate that nearly 10% of people in Jail in the states are innocent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocence_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocence_Project Your example is a base rate fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_rate_fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_rate_fallacy aka Extension Neglect : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extension_neglect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extension_neglect "One swallow does not a summer make"