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Rogozin is a member of ultra-right movement. Like real "Russia for russians" and similar BS.

by bvrmn 4y ago

gdy 4y ago
I haven't heard anything like that from him for 15 years.
- bvrmn 4y ago
  With new assignment we definitely hear something about non-existing Ukrainian nation. There is no such thing like former nazi.
  - CoastalCoder 4y ago
    > There is no such thing like former nazi. Here's one counterexample: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansi,_the_Girl_who_Loved_the_Swastika https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansi,_the_Girl_who_Loved_the_...
  - tut-urut-utut 4y ago
    Of course there is, one of them was the founder of our space program. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun
hgazx 4y ago
Why is “Russia for Russians” bs? Sounds like a reasonable thing to say even if you disagree.
- deleted 4y ago
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- r721 4y ago
  This slogan implies that ethnic minorities (19% of Russia's population [1]) are not welcome in their home country. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Russia
- lotusmars 4y ago
  This is a slogan used mostly by Russian neo-Nazis, but quietly supported by sizeable parts of general population. It’s has a few connotations. The mildest is proposing to throw all colored people out of the cities. The most severe is to exterminate them.
- the_only_law 4y ago
  > Sounds like a reasonable thing to say even if you disagree. pretty sure many Turkic, Mongolic, etc. people lived in what is now Russia long before a Russian state existed. That's treating the phrase an an ethnic thing, you might say "well clearly they mean Russian as a Nationality" but in that case Russia already belongs to Russians.
- gdy 4y ago
  Russia is a multi-ethnic country and slogans like that are destructive.
- orbital-decay 4y ago
  In Russian, there's a distinction between русские (ethnical Russians) and россияне (Russian nationals/citizens) which doesn't map to English well - it's Russians either way in it. This slogan implies the former (ethnical Russians), and was declared extremist long ago, for a reason. This distinction is a very frequent source of misunderstanding for both native speakers and English speakers, as Russians might hear one where you imply another, and vice versa.

Rogozin is a member of ultra-right movement. Like real "Russia for russians" and similar BS.

by bvrmn 4y ago

Rogozin is a member of ultra-right movement. Like real "Russia for russians" and similar BS.

gdy 4y ago

I haven't heard anything like that from him for 15 years.

bvrmn 4y ago
With new assignment we definitely hear something about non-existing Ukrainian nation. There is no such thing like former nazi.
- CoastalCoder 4y ago
  > There is no such thing like former nazi. Here's one counterexample: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansi,_the_Girl_who_Loved_the_Swastika https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansi,_the_Girl_who_Loved_the_...
- tut-urut-utut 4y ago
  Of course there is, one of them was the founder of our space program. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

hgazx 4y ago

Why is “Russia for Russians” bs? Sounds like a reasonable thing to say even if you disagree.

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r721 4y ago
This slogan implies that ethnic minorities (19% of Russia's population [1]) are not welcome in their home country. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Russia
lotusmars 4y ago
This is a slogan used mostly by Russian neo-Nazis, but quietly supported by sizeable parts of general population. It’s has a few connotations. The mildest is proposing to throw all colored people out of the cities. The most severe is to exterminate them.
the_only_law 4y ago
> Sounds like a reasonable thing to say even if you disagree. pretty sure many Turkic, Mongolic, etc. people lived in what is now Russia long before a Russian state existed. That's treating the phrase an an ethnic thing, you might say "well clearly they mean Russian as a Nationality" but in that case Russia already belongs to Russians.
gdy 4y ago
Russia is a multi-ethnic country and slogans like that are destructive.
orbital-decay 4y ago
In Russian, there's a distinction between русские (ethnical Russians) and россияне (Russian nationals/citizens) which doesn't map to English well - it's Russians either way in it. This slogan implies the former (ethnical Russians), and was declared extremist long ago, for a reason. This distinction is a very frequent source of misunderstanding for both native speakers and English speakers, as Russians might hear one where you imply another, and vice versa.