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The problem with theistic societies is that they make absolutely no sense to an atheist. Surely you're not advocating for atheists to pretend to be theists to p
by blep_ 4y ago
The problem with theistic societies is that they make absolutely no sense to an atheist. Surely you're not advocating for atheists to pretend to be theists to push their political views?
(also many secular people are not libertarians, and many libertarians are religious. I have no idea where you got that idea from.)
- motohagiography 4y agoJust try to reason with an alternate axiom. You don't need to believe something to reason about it, and the results may be different from the string of failures that characterize utopianism so far. The conflict this comment describes doesn't make any sense unless you interpret the example as "all secular people," or "all libertarians," which is doesn't register as thoughtful. Is it so difficult to imagine thinking things we don't already believe? There are lots of religious libertarians, but they wouldn't characterize themselves by their political ideology because their politics aren't their identity. They can't be, again, unless they've been seized by one of these anti-ethos ideas where their identity becomes the artifact of what they have chosen to oppose.
- blep_ 4y agoI'm not sure what your point is, then. You want people to start theistic states while not believing in the theistic principles behind them?