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> Democrats are having "purity spiral" fights over who gets thrown out of the tent, for a while now. Dude, they haven’t even gotten rid of Sinema or Manchin, a
by mcphage 4y ago
> Democrats are having "purity spiral" fights over who gets thrown out of the tent, for a while now.
Dude, they haven’t even gotten rid of Sinema or Manchin, and those two have done nothing but grind the Democrats plans to a halt. If they can’t even get rid of their right fringe, these purity spirals can’t be very effective.
- thatguymike 4y agoThe thing with Sinema and Manchin is that the alternative to them isn't a non-obstructionist Democrat, it's a Republican. "Getting rid" of them would do nothing to help Dems.
- mcphage 4y agoIt wouldn't, and that's why they're still there—but if the Democrats were in the middle of a "purity spiral", they'd be gone. Instead they're in the middle of "we've got these people constantly blocking us but they're slightly better than the alternative spiral". In other words, spinning in circles going nowhere.
- yucky 4y agoRepublicans have centrists too, that isn't unique to one party. Representatives will generally take on the ideological positions of those they represent, and the fact is West Virginia is nothing like California so we shouldn't expect the representatives to be the same ideologically.
- mcphage 4y agoI agree with everything you're saying, but I think it means the idea that Democrats are in the midst of a purity spiral is bunk.
- kcplate 4y ago>right fringe That moment when your party has moved so far to the left that left of center democrats are now considered right wing extremists for derailing your agenda. The democrats own plans and piss poor economy management stalled themselves. If your party’s agenda can’t even unify your own party, let alone attract some bi-partisan support, it might be time to soften the agenda a bit and start doing some things widen your support.
- mcphage 4y agoThey’re the right fringe of the Democrats, regardless of where they are on an absolute scale. > let alone attract some bi-partisan support Hah! Ha ha ha ha hah hah! Ah hah hah ha ha ha ha ha hah hah ha
- kcplate 4y ago> Hah! Ha ha ha ha hah hah! Ah hah hah ha ha ha ha ha hah hah ha “That…is why you fail” - Yoda