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I really wanted to like Odysee, but the community and dominant content are really not for me. The Politics section especially seems to be dominated by people wh

I really wanted to like Odysee, but the community and dominant content are really not for me. The Politics section especially seems to be dominated by people who are either banned or expect to be banned from YouTube - and not without reason. I really wish PeerTube was more of a thing.

nathias 4y ago
I watch mostly the same channels than on youtube, but yes if the platform is netural you will get everything, thats the point.
- sascha_sl 4y ago
  No, you really don't. You get an exaggeration of the margins of society (very often one specific direction) that is discriminated against elsewhere, unless you're also the biggest and most profitable platform. And that's YouTube. You saw the same effect with Gab. These spaces become polarized very fast based on who is already there and what the admins believe is adequate moderation. Odysee seems more right leaning. I don't see queer content creators on there, for instance, despite YouTube heavily demonetizing and recommendation-banning them too. This is why I really want federated spaces, because they can serve different margins of society without becoming isolated islands. Folding Ideas made this point (about VidMe) half a decade ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3snVCRo_bI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3snVCRo_bI
  - nathias 4y ago
    There is nothing preventing anyone from using these protocols, if US lefties feel excluded because other opinions exist on the same front-end, they can make their own frontend and ban aynone they want, the good thing is that the protol itself isn't censorious. I have a problem with federated platforms where you just get scalled down youtubes where every local sheriff gets to terrorize the people under his domain with his whims and if youtube's are driven by ad sales these are perhaps even worse because they're just ego driven. Federative approach is terrible, it combines the downsides of decentralized and centralized solutions, it's far from neturality or increasing inclusion or escaping censorship. Thank you for reading my blog.

nathias 4y ago

I watch mostly the same channels than on youtube, but yes if the platform is netural you will get everything, thats the point.

sascha_sl 4y ago
No, you really don't. You get an exaggeration of the margins of society (very often one specific direction) that is discriminated against elsewhere, unless you're also the biggest and most profitable platform. And that's YouTube. You saw the same effect with Gab. These spaces become polarized very fast based on who is already there and what the admins believe is adequate moderation. Odysee seems more right leaning. I don't see queer content creators on there, for instance, despite YouTube heavily demonetizing and recommendation-banning them too. This is why I really want federated spaces, because they can serve different margins of society without becoming isolated islands. Folding Ideas made this point (about VidMe) half a decade ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3snVCRo_bI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3snVCRo_bI
- nathias 4y ago
  There is nothing preventing anyone from using these protocols, if US lefties feel excluded because other opinions exist on the same front-end, they can make their own frontend and ban aynone they want, the good thing is that the protol itself isn't censorious. I have a problem with federated platforms where you just get scalled down youtubes where every local sheriff gets to terrorize the people under his domain with his whims and if youtube's are driven by ad sales these are perhaps even worse because they're just ego driven. Federative approach is terrible, it combines the downsides of decentralized and centralized solutions, it's far from neturality or increasing inclusion or escaping censorship. Thank you for reading my blog.