4 ms·

When I started "deGoogling" myself a year ago, the first step was to stop using Gmail. When changing my registered e-mail address everywhere on the Internet the

When I started "deGoogling" myself a year ago, the first step was to stop using Gmail. When changing my registered e-mail address everywhere on the Internet there was one crucial bit that I completely overlooked: the owner/tech/billing/etc. contact records of a domain that I own. Many registrars send all regular communications to the e-mail address of the user account, not to those in the domain contact records, so I happily went on thinking I was entirely "deGmailed" once my Gmail inbox had dried up as planned. If I had somehow lost access to that old Gmail address before I realized my mistake, that domain would effectively no longer be mine.

cube00 4y ago
If you could still login to the Registrars user account that owned the domain and that email address had been changed I suspect you should still be able to change the domain contact information via the self service console. Worst case you'd raise a ticket (how good is actual support!) and they would be able to change the domain contact information for you because you can already authenticate with the user account that owns the domain. If this wasn't possible all those domains that have self referencing contact information (eg. abuse@this-same-domain.example) could never be verified.
- daneel_w 4y ago
  Maybe it's not the case for all TLDs and registrars, but for my .se domain and my specific registrar, changing any of the contact records required a confirmation sent to the e-mail address of the owner record. A logical safety measure to prevent theft.
  - x86x87 4y ago
    Setup the gmail account to forward everything to your new address. Enable 2fa.
yieldcrv 4y ago
Still need a google account to accept a google meet invitation or some interactions with other people’s google calendar invites Using google accounts with a non gmail non gsuite email suuucks
that_guy_iain 4y ago
I‘m not sure what you think would have happened. The domain is still registered via the register to your account and they literally know those contact emails become out of date. Those fields are pretty much just for informational purposes otherwise Whois privacy would own all the domains.
- daneel_w 4y ago
  Changing contact records required confirmation sent to the e-mail address of the owner record. Ultimately, in case of domain theft/dispute or similar, the domain's owner record has highest authority.
  - that_guy_iain 4y ago
    > Changing contact records required confirmation sent to the e-mail address of the owner record. I just changed the email in the owner field in namecheap. I did not receive a confirmation email. (At the old one, I did to the new one) > Ultimately, in case of domain theft/dispute or similar, the domain's owner record has highest authority. I would highly suspect in a court of law that is not true. You see, you have a contract with the registar for the domain. You can put whatever information you want there it doesn't change your contract with the registar. That is why your registar account is important.
    - daneel_w 4y ago
      I mean no offense, but it looks like you're just providing guesswork and making up answers. > "I would highly suspect in a court of law that is not true." OK, but why, and in what court and in what legal system? > "You see, you have a contract with the registar for the domain." It's not the registrar that sells the domain. They are brokers between registrant and the entity owning the TLD, and registrars also have domestic laws to abide to. > "You can put whatever information you want there ..." No you can't, not in European nations part of the EU. While not legally enforced, registrars based here are required to request and urge customers to put accurate and truthful information there. Some of them (e.g. OVH) even require personal identification documents in order to register a domain. In my case, with my .se domain, I cannot change anything in the contact records without providing verifiable identification data - part of which goes into my contact records.

cube00 4y ago

If you could still login to the Registrars user account that owned the domain and that email address had been changed I suspect you should still be able to change the domain contact information via the self service console. Worst case you'd raise a ticket (how good is actual support!) and they would be able to change the domain contact information for you because you can already authenticate with the user account that owns the domain. If this wasn't possible all those domains that have self referencing contact information (eg. abuse@this-same-domain.example) could never be verified.

daneel_w 4y ago
Maybe it's not the case for all TLDs and registrars, but for my .se domain and my specific registrar, changing any of the contact records required a confirmation sent to the e-mail address of the owner record. A logical safety measure to prevent theft.
- x86x87 4y ago
  Setup the gmail account to forward everything to your new address. Enable 2fa.

yieldcrv 4y ago

Still need a google account to accept a google meet invitation or some interactions with other people’s google calendar invites Using google accounts with a non gmail non gsuite email suuucks

that_guy_iain 4y ago

I‘m not sure what you think would have happened. The domain is still registered via the register to your account and they literally know those contact emails become out of date. Those fields are pretty much just for informational purposes otherwise Whois privacy would own all the domains.

daneel_w 4y ago
Changing contact records required confirmation sent to the e-mail address of the owner record. Ultimately, in case of domain theft/dispute or similar, the domain's owner record has highest authority.
- that_guy_iain 4y ago
  > Changing contact records required confirmation sent to the e-mail address of the owner record. I just changed the email in the owner field in namecheap. I did not receive a confirmation email. (At the old one, I did to the new one) > Ultimately, in case of domain theft/dispute or similar, the domain's owner record has highest authority. I would highly suspect in a court of law that is not true. You see, you have a contract with the registar for the domain. You can put whatever information you want there it doesn't change your contract with the registar. That is why your registar account is important.
  - daneel_w 4y ago
    I mean no offense, but it looks like you're just providing guesswork and making up answers. > "I would highly suspect in a court of law that is not true." OK, but why, and in what court and in what legal system? > "You see, you have a contract with the registar for the domain." It's not the registrar that sells the domain. They are brokers between registrant and the entity owning the TLD, and registrars also have domestic laws to abide to. > "You can put whatever information you want there ..." No you can't, not in European nations part of the EU. While not legally enforced, registrars based here are required to request and urge customers to put accurate and truthful information there. Some of them (e.g. OVH) even require personal identification documents in order to register a domain. In my case, with my .se domain, I cannot change anything in the contact records without providing verifiable identification data - part of which goes into my contact records.