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I just got mine about a week ago and I’m totally in love with it. So far I can see that the bike can replace the car for most of the time (exceptions are bad we

I just got mine about a week ago and I’m totally in love with it. So far I can see that the bike can replace the car for most of the time (exceptions are bad weather and when I need to carry things) and my bike route is definitely more interesting than my car route. The only problem I see is that bikes are also very easy to be stolen and the police here (Finland) doesn’t seem to do much about it.

kmlx 4y ago
> The only problem I see is that bikes are also very easy to be stolen and the police here (Finland) doesn’t seem to do much about it. i solved this by getting insurance. when mine was stolen police told me they never find them except when they find a huge number of stolen bikes all at the same place and time (eg a warehouse, a garage etc)
- exodust 4y ago
  Also a good D-lock with 18mm steel will help. Because e-bikes can carry more weight, a heavier lock is not a burden to carry around. Bolt cutters won't work on 18mm of steel, and a portable grinder will take too long.
  - kmlx 4y ago
    > Also a good D-lock with 18mm steel will help. this didn't help me. they cut through that easily.
  - kedikedi 4y ago
    True, bolt cutters are useless on a thick u-lock but I am not sure about the cutting disc taking too long. I’ll try to find some* 18mm steel and try to cut it with my 18V grinder. I’ll comment the result here :) *it may be a different grade steel than a lock steel
    - kedikedi 4y ago
      Experiment results: my grinder was able to cut 18mm steel rod in about 20 seconds. For completeness sake, I used a machinable steel rod, turned to 18mm. For cutting I used a Makita 18V grinder with a 125mm disc (I had a partially used disc. A full disc would cut it faster) and with a full battery (it cuts slightly slower as battery runs out).
      - exodust 4y ago
        Okay, but a proper experiment would use an actual bike lock attached to a bike, not clamped in a vice. I have the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini. Two cuts are needed to remove it. Along with the quality of steel, and awkwardness of cutting a lock that isn't clamped in a vice, there's no way the thief will be done in 20 seconds. The best seems to be the Hiplok D1000, which took 20 minutes for them to cut using a corded grinder, vice and several cutting blades. https://youtu.be/GMg6zVdYI0g?t=179 https://youtu.be/GMg6zVdYI0g?t=179 The Hiplok weighs 2kg, (same as my Kryptonite), so looks like a great lock for e-bikes. Only problem is, everyone wants one and not enough supply.

kmlx 4y ago

> The only problem I see is that bikes are also very easy to be stolen and the police here (Finland) doesn’t seem to do much about it. i solved this by getting insurance. when mine was stolen police told me they never find them except when they find a huge number of stolen bikes all at the same place and time (eg a warehouse, a garage etc)

exodust 4y ago
Also a good D-lock with 18mm steel will help. Because e-bikes can carry more weight, a heavier lock is not a burden to carry around. Bolt cutters won't work on 18mm of steel, and a portable grinder will take too long.
- kmlx 4y ago
  > Also a good D-lock with 18mm steel will help. this didn't help me. they cut through that easily.
- kedikedi 4y ago
  True, bolt cutters are useless on a thick u-lock but I am not sure about the cutting disc taking too long. I’ll try to find some* 18mm steel and try to cut it with my 18V grinder. I’ll comment the result here :) *it may be a different grade steel than a lock steel
  - kedikedi 4y ago
    Experiment results: my grinder was able to cut 18mm steel rod in about 20 seconds. For completeness sake, I used a machinable steel rod, turned to 18mm. For cutting I used a Makita 18V grinder with a 125mm disc (I had a partially used disc. A full disc would cut it faster) and with a full battery (it cuts slightly slower as battery runs out).
    - exodust 4y ago
      Okay, but a proper experiment would use an actual bike lock attached to a bike, not clamped in a vice. I have the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini. Two cuts are needed to remove it. Along with the quality of steel, and awkwardness of cutting a lock that isn't clamped in a vice, there's no way the thief will be done in 20 seconds. The best seems to be the Hiplok D1000, which took 20 minutes for them to cut using a corded grinder, vice and several cutting blades. https://youtu.be/GMg6zVdYI0g?t=179 https://youtu.be/GMg6zVdYI0g?t=179 The Hiplok weighs 2kg, (same as my Kryptonite), so looks like a great lock for e-bikes. Only problem is, everyone wants one and not enough supply.