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I am in decent health. My Dr. and I discussed it, and there is no compelling reason for me to get yearly flu shots. I also avoid high fructose corn syrup. My b

I am in decent health. My Dr. and I discussed it, and there is no compelling reason for me to get yearly flu shots. I also avoid high fructose corn syrup. My body, my choice.

Johnny555 4y ago
>I am in decent health. My Dr. and I discussed it, and there is no compelling reason for me to get yearly flu shots. That might be the right personal decision, but it ignores the public health aspect -- getting the flu shot will help reduce your chance of contracting and spreading the flu to others.
ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
is there a compelling reason to avoid it?
- peteradio 4y ago
  This is a losers life strategy: do anything anybody tells you to unless you can mount a vigorous rhetorical explanation for "why not". Generally speaking you should be talked into things and have a good sense for when to proceed with caution. New pharmaceuticals aren't the same thing as pickin up nickels on the sidewalk.
  - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
    > This is a losers life strategy: do anything anybody tells you to unless you can mount a vigorous rhetorical explanation for "why not" More like a loser's life strategy is avoiding everything anybody tells you to avoid until someone can mount a vigorous explanation for why you should do it. If you have no reason to not get it, and "maybe getting slightly less sick" as a reason to get it, ordinary people simply do the cost-benefit equation there and come to the conclusion that most people do: that getting it is better than not getting it
    - peteradio 4y ago
      > "maybe getting slightly less sick" as a reason to get it You are barking up the wrong tree if that is my upside. I get sick all the time, I got kids in daycare and school, its just a fact of life. I don't ever know what I got or if maybe I'm not getting enough sleep or a bit hungover. I don't need a pharmaceutical for anything that ails me, yet. Ordinary people under 50 doing the cost benefit analysis might rightly come to the conclusion that there is no medical or social benefit to getting the vaccine. Can you learn to respect that or is this vaccine really a must have for anybody?
      - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
        peteradio 4y ago
        I assert most people <50 made their decision sans data analysis, if that's true then I'm above the mean in that regard.
        ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
        given that even you, someone who has decided not to receive a vaccination, are thusfar unable to articulate any significant downsides, it is unlikely that the average person would believe there to be any
        peteradio 4y ago
        Again, I make decisions based on some apparent upside. There's also no significant downside to twisting the door knob three times and knocking on the frame three times before entering any room.
        ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
        perhaps the reason most people behave differently is that they perform a more proper cost benefit equation, which doesn't minimize the upside, and doesn't have bias towards the "cost" end of the spectrum before any costs or benefits are actually added in
- wonderwonder 4y ago
  Is the answer to this question known? There has not been enough time to observe if there are long-term consequences to children taking the vaccine. I am not against vaccination but I think simply wanting to wait and see what happens is a very valid response.
  - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
    - wonderwonder 4y ago
      Some are vocal in claiming they know on both sides. Personally I don't know so I will err on what in my mind is the side of caution and hold off on getting my kids vaccinated. Others may choose a different approach and see the cautious move as getting them vaccinated. There is just no way to know and each family has to make its own decisions. Everyone should respect each other's choices and know they are coming from a place of concern for their children.
      - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
        some are vocal in claiming others do not know a thing, when it is in fact the vocal person who does not know, so thank you for not claiming others don't know and admitting you don't. what cost:benefit analysis leads you to believe that your approach is cautious, rather than incautious, as those with a different cost:benefit analysis might consider it?
        wonderwonder 4y ago
        Friend at this point in time you appear to be intentionally obtuse on what I said. All the answers to your questions are in my prior post. All the best.

I am in decent health. My Dr. and I discussed it, and there is no compelling reason for me to get yearly flu shots. I also avoid high fructose corn syrup. My body, my choice.

Johnny555 4y ago

>I am in decent health. My Dr. and I discussed it, and there is no compelling reason for me to get yearly flu shots. That might be the right personal decision, but it ignores the public health aspect -- getting the flu shot will help reduce your chance of contracting and spreading the flu to others.

ImPostingOnHN 4y ago

is there a compelling reason to avoid it?

peteradio 4y ago
This is a losers life strategy: do anything anybody tells you to unless you can mount a vigorous rhetorical explanation for "why not". Generally speaking you should be talked into things and have a good sense for when to proceed with caution. New pharmaceuticals aren't the same thing as pickin up nickels on the sidewalk.
- ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
  > This is a losers life strategy: do anything anybody tells you to unless you can mount a vigorous rhetorical explanation for "why not" More like a loser's life strategy is avoiding everything anybody tells you to avoid until someone can mount a vigorous explanation for why you should do it. If you have no reason to not get it, and "maybe getting slightly less sick" as a reason to get it, ordinary people simply do the cost-benefit equation there and come to the conclusion that most people do: that getting it is better than not getting it
  - peteradio 4y ago
    > "maybe getting slightly less sick" as a reason to get it You are barking up the wrong tree if that is my upside. I get sick all the time, I got kids in daycare and school, its just a fact of life. I don't ever know what I got or if maybe I'm not getting enough sleep or a bit hungover. I don't need a pharmaceutical for anything that ails me, yet. Ordinary people under 50 doing the cost benefit analysis might rightly come to the conclusion that there is no medical or social benefit to getting the vaccine. Can you learn to respect that or is this vaccine really a must have for anybody?
    - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
      - peteradio 4y ago
        I assert most people <50 made their decision sans data analysis, if that's true then I'm above the mean in that regard.
        ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
        given that even you, someone who has decided not to receive a vaccination, are thusfar unable to articulate any significant downsides, it is unlikely that the average person would believe there to be any
        peteradio 4y ago
        Again, I make decisions based on some apparent upside. There's also no significant downside to twisting the door knob three times and knocking on the frame three times before entering any room.
        ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
        perhaps the reason most people behave differently is that they perform a more proper cost benefit equation, which doesn't minimize the upside, and doesn't have bias towards the "cost" end of the spectrum before any costs or benefits are actually added in
wonderwonder 4y ago
Is the answer to this question known? There has not been enough time to observe if there are long-term consequences to children taking the vaccine. I am not against vaccination but I think simply wanting to wait and see what happens is a very valid response.
- ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
  - wonderwonder 4y ago
    Some are vocal in claiming they know on both sides. Personally I don't know so I will err on what in my mind is the side of caution and hold off on getting my kids vaccinated. Others may choose a different approach and see the cautious move as getting them vaccinated. There is just no way to know and each family has to make its own decisions. Everyone should respect each other's choices and know they are coming from a place of concern for their children.
    - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
      some are vocal in claiming others do not know a thing, when it is in fact the vocal person who does not know, so thank you for not claiming others don't know and admitting you don't. what cost:benefit analysis leads you to believe that your approach is cautious, rather than incautious, as those with a different cost:benefit analysis might consider it?
      - wonderwonder 4y ago
        Friend at this point in time you appear to be intentionally obtuse on what I said. All the answers to your questions are in my prior post. All the best.