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Sam Altman has done other stuff too. Like this comment asks, the same thing for you https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32087778 https://news.ycombinator.com/i

Sam Altman has done other stuff too. Like this comment asks, the same thing for you https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32087778 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32087778. Why so focused on defending someone who failed upward (see what happened to his startup Loopt) and is now super powerful?

davidatbu 4y ago
That comment is flagged so I can't see it. > Why defend [Sam Altman]? That's not my intention! For all I know, he might actually be a scumbag (to borrow the term from our friend in this thread). I'm genuinely trying to understand the web3 space (you can look at my comment history), which is why I started this thread by asking about whether our friend was aware of the zero-knowledge proof thing. The quibble over the "scumbag" name-calling is because I was surprised that our friend would feel comfortable calling someone a scumbag, when they, self-admittedly, don't understand how WorldCoin even works.
- skinnymuch 4y ago
  You kept focusing on the scumbag thing though. Seemingly more than web3. At least three comments specified having issues with the scumbag specific issue as if it’s some insane social faux paux and even if it was, this isn’t some fancy dinner. All of this is why it’s so curious No one said that’s the only thing that makes him a scumbag. Do we now need to dutifully lay out all our arguments for why someone might be a scumbag before saying so? That seems like a really high bar to push for. It would take far too long to do that each time especially as proponents for the person can just demand more arguments and proof.
  - davidatbu 4y ago
    > All of this is why it’s so curious. To be clear, I am not invested in anything Sam Altman is (financially, academically, or any otherwise). This maybe what you're trying to get at? > Do we now need to dutifully lay out all our arguments for why someone might be a scumbag before calling someone a scumbag? Yes, I 100% think so.

davidatbu 4y ago

That comment is flagged so I can't see it. > Why defend [Sam Altman]? That's not my intention! For all I know, he might actually be a scumbag (to borrow the term from our friend in this thread). I'm genuinely trying to understand the web3 space (you can look at my comment history), which is why I started this thread by asking about whether our friend was aware of the zero-knowledge proof thing. The quibble over the "scumbag" name-calling is because I was surprised that our friend would feel comfortable calling someone a scumbag, when they, self-admittedly, don't understand how WorldCoin even works.

skinnymuch 4y ago
You kept focusing on the scumbag thing though. Seemingly more than web3. At least three comments specified having issues with the scumbag specific issue as if it’s some insane social faux paux and even if it was, this isn’t some fancy dinner. All of this is why it’s so curious No one said that’s the only thing that makes him a scumbag. Do we now need to dutifully lay out all our arguments for why someone might be a scumbag before saying so? That seems like a really high bar to push for. It would take far too long to do that each time especially as proponents for the person can just demand more arguments and proof.
- davidatbu 4y ago
  > All of this is why it’s so curious. To be clear, I am not invested in anything Sam Altman is (financially, academically, or any otherwise). This maybe what you're trying to get at? > Do we now need to dutifully lay out all our arguments for why someone might be a scumbag before calling someone a scumbag? Yes, I 100% think so.