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Who uses Windows NFS? I wouldn’t trust it and honestly, I can’t explain why, I just wouldn’t.

aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
Because you know not enough time has been spent on it.
acdha 4y ago
I don’t know anyone who loved it but if you were trying to get Linux desktops or servers allowed in a Windows shop it was often the path of least resistance.
rootw0rm 4y ago
i used it years ago for sharing media files from a windows server to a linux media player. bonus: said windows server also ran software raid-5. it's like i hit the lottery for worst possible solution for all the things.
croutonwagon 4y ago
I used it for years as a backup datastore location for some VM program. It worked well enough. Even had routine nightly shutdown/startup scripts of the VM that mounted it and then the NFS server. It worked well enough. Would never run that at work or in production though.
acidburnNSA 4y ago
I use one. My windows heavy IT team likes to do big storage appliances in windows and serve them to linux vms with nfs. It is horrible and sketchy, and has all kind of weird file caching, permissions, and locking issues. They havent responded positively to my constant dropping of the ceph promo video on them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBkH1g4DuKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBkH1g4DuKE
- nairboon 4y ago
  That video is great. Now I want to setup my own Ceph cluster.
bravetraveler 4y ago
I don't disagree, but you would be truly shocked
justsomehnguy 4y ago
This is the easiest way to share something with a *nix machine. I use it for ISO storage in vSphere cluster, works fine. People use it for storing actual VMs, but that requires a working AD/Krb integration between ESXi and AD which I don't use.
- alophawen 4y ago
  Eh, CIFS (SMB) has been in the kernel for years and would be the easiest way to share Windows <-> Linux.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
    In the kernel? I guess I never checked, but I was pretty sure all CIFS/SMB on Linux was userspace via FUSE and SAMBA. Still, have to agree it is the easiest way to file share between them.
    - justsomehnguy 4y ago
      > The CIFS VFS was added to mainline Linux kernels in 2.5.42 For me both of them require arcane commands to use which I need to search each time I need them, but NFS is a bit less arcany for me.
      - alophawen 4y ago
        Its no more odd than a NFS share mount. fstab: //WIN_SHARE_IP/share_name /mnt/win_share cifs credentials=/etc/win-credentials,file_mode=0755,dir_mode=0755 0 0 where a NFS fstab mount is something like this: 10.10.0.10:/backups /var/backups nfs defaults 0 0
    - jra_samba 4y ago
      No cifsfs is maintained by Samba Team member Steve French (now at Microsoft) and is a kernel SMB1/2/3 redirector.
sneak 4y ago
Maybe because the CIFS/SMB clients for Linux are so good, it makes little sense to do it the other way 'round?
Fell 4y ago
If all you want is network storage in your home wifi, NFS is extremely easy to set up. Last year, I wrote a blog post about it: https://furbasik.de/nfs-is-the-new-samba https://furbasik.de/nfs-is-the-new-samba I would not use it in an office though.
what-the-grump 4y ago
Someone with a San who didn’t want to deal with iscsi to the hypervisor. Who exactly, I can find a few clients that don’t listen to reason.

Because you know not enough time has been spent on it.

I don’t know anyone who loved it but if you were trying to get Linux desktops or servers allowed in a Windows shop it was often the path of least resistance.

rootw0rm 4y ago

i used it years ago for sharing media files from a windows server to a linux media player. bonus: said windows server also ran software raid-5. it's like i hit the lottery for worst possible solution for all the things.

croutonwagon 4y ago

I used it for years as a backup datastore location for some VM program. It worked well enough. Even had routine nightly shutdown/startup scripts of the VM that mounted it and then the NFS server. It worked well enough. Would never run that at work or in production though.

acidburnNSA 4y ago

I use one. My windows heavy IT team likes to do big storage appliances in windows and serve them to linux vms with nfs. It is horrible and sketchy, and has all kind of weird file caching, permissions, and locking issues. They havent responded positively to my constant dropping of the ceph promo video on them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBkH1g4DuKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBkH1g4DuKE

nairboon 4y ago
That video is great. Now I want to setup my own Ceph cluster.

bravetraveler 4y ago

I don't disagree, but you would be truly shocked

justsomehnguy 4y ago

This is the easiest way to share something with a *nix machine. I use it for ISO storage in vSphere cluster, works fine. People use it for storing actual VMs, but that requires a working AD/Krb integration between ESXi and AD which I don't use.

alophawen 4y ago
Eh, CIFS (SMB) has been in the kernel for years and would be the easiest way to share Windows <-> Linux.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
  In the kernel? I guess I never checked, but I was pretty sure all CIFS/SMB on Linux was userspace via FUSE and SAMBA. Still, have to agree it is the easiest way to file share between them.
  - justsomehnguy 4y ago
    > The CIFS VFS was added to mainline Linux kernels in 2.5.42 For me both of them require arcane commands to use which I need to search each time I need them, but NFS is a bit less arcany for me.
    - alophawen 4y ago
      Its no more odd than a NFS share mount. fstab: //WIN_SHARE_IP/share_name /mnt/win_share cifs credentials=/etc/win-credentials,file_mode=0755,dir_mode=0755 0 0 where a NFS fstab mount is something like this: 10.10.0.10:/backups /var/backups nfs defaults 0 0
  - jra_samba 4y ago
    No cifsfs is maintained by Samba Team member Steve French (now at Microsoft) and is a kernel SMB1/2/3 redirector.

sneak 4y ago

Maybe because the CIFS/SMB clients for Linux are so good, it makes little sense to do it the other way 'round?

Fell 4y ago

If all you want is network storage in your home wifi, NFS is extremely easy to set up. Last year, I wrote a blog post about it: https://furbasik.de/nfs-is-the-new-samba https://furbasik.de/nfs-is-the-new-samba I would not use it in an office though.

what-the-grump 4y ago

Someone with a San who didn’t want to deal with iscsi to the hypervisor. Who exactly, I can find a few clients that don’t listen to reason.