>>Well who gives a shit what libertarians think? well the person I was responding to who specifically talked about libertarian positions. >>It’s a philosophy

>>Well who gives a shit what libertarians think? well the person I was responding to who specifically talked about libertarian positions. >>It’s a philosophy for 12 year olds. Only for those with a 5th grade understanding of philosophy. The rest of your comment highlights your extreme ignorance of libertarian philosophy nicely, because no where in the philosophy do we deny social hierarchy or human nature, infact the primary goal of the different philosophies is to curb the natural tendencies of human nature to seek power over others, the "most ruthless person" wins has been found through out history in all manner of non-libertarian government, and the US Constitution is the closest formation of a libertarian government and has been pretty successful at resisting those natural tendencies, to the extent we have seen revision from that it is directly due to removal libertarian ideas from the US Governmental system and replacing them with majoritarian / collectivist ideals and policies