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>Is there anything foundamentally wrong with buses and trains It's slower, a round trip I could make in 30 minutes in a car would take careful scheduling and t

>Is there anything foundamentally wrong with buses and trains It's slower, a round trip I could make in 30 minutes in a car would take careful scheduling and two hours on a bus. Sometimes it's cold outside and I'd have to walk half a mile to and from a bus stop. The local transit authority is experimenting with reducing the number of light rail cars so they'll be better covered by transit police in cars because violence is a problem. Once on BART I'm convinced somebody shit in a paper bag and left it in the middle of the car. Caltrain in rush hour would be a violation of the Geneva Convention if you made prisoners stand in such a cramped and unstable train for an hour at a time. I keep hearing about people getting stabbed by the local bus stop, 45 minutes after a friend visiting me came through the last time. A couple of months ago a dude died in the hospital after getting stabbed on a bus three blocks away from my apartment in a dispute over who got a cigarette left on the floor of the bus. I calculated total cost of ownership of my car and it was considerably less than taking public transit unless I used public transit a lot, and any savings would be completely blown away by using Uber for just a couple of trips a month. There are situations where public transit is a good thing, but it's generally a dirty, crime-infested, unpleasant experience in America only good for people who are really excited about not having a car. I'm opposed to any measures that force public transit on people by making car ownership more difficult until after they make public transit a safe, convenient, comfortable experience.

Panzer04 4y ago
The way to make PT work is for it to be faster than cars. People should choose it because it’s faster/cheaper/more convenient, not because they have no alternative. You’ll find this is typically the case in large cities that prioritise it appropriately - Between spending an hour in a car or on a train I’d choose the train every time.
mixmastamyk 4y ago
The problem here is your dysfunctional city, and has little to do with trains. I hear you however, mine is too.
com2kid 4y ago
> It's slower, a round trip I could make in 30 minutes in a car would take careful scheduling and two hours on a bus. That isn't a fundamental problem with buses, that is a problem with your local implementation. A proper mass transit system gets to avoid all or most street traffic, including signaling and such. Traveling through the streets of a city, you are lucky if your average speed hits 15mph. Mass transit can easily beat that if implemented well.

Panzer04 4y ago

The way to make PT work is for it to be faster than cars. People should choose it because it’s faster/cheaper/more convenient, not because they have no alternative. You’ll find this is typically the case in large cities that prioritise it appropriately - Between spending an hour in a car or on a train I’d choose the train every time.

mixmastamyk 4y ago

The problem here is your dysfunctional city, and has little to do with trains. I hear you however, mine is too.

com2kid 4y ago

> It's slower, a round trip I could make in 30 minutes in a car would take careful scheduling and two hours on a bus. That isn't a fundamental problem with buses, that is a problem with your local implementation. A proper mass transit system gets to avoid all or most street traffic, including signaling and such. Traveling through the streets of a city, you are lucky if your average speed hits 15mph. Mass transit can easily beat that if implemented well.