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So it stores data using RS encoding on multiple pieces. I've had a quick look around the website, and the most information i could sort of squeeze out was from

by asharp 15y ago

So it stores data using RS encoding on multiple pieces. I've had a quick look around the website, and the most information i could sort of squeeze out was from the blog. The arch page https://nimbus.io/architecture/ https://nimbus.io/architecture/ is devoid of architecture. I don't see any mention of compression or dedup. I don't see any mention of network level failover/redundency. I don't see any mention of high level CNC functionality/db arch (ie. swift's notorious file replicated SQLite database....) I don't see a download source button. Is that just me? Overall, sounds very interesting and rather promising. Who are the people behind Nimbus.io?

SaltwaterC 15y ago
Says right there on the front page: "Build by SpiderOak on the same proven backend storage network which powers hundreds of thousands of backups".
MichaelApproved 15y ago
"I don't see a download source button. Is that just me?" Says right there on the front page: "We are currently in private beta. Please sign-up and we will send you an invitation as soon as we are ready!" Presumably, the download is behind the invite-wall.
- cperciva 15y ago
  I think someone's confused about what "100% open source" means.
  - alpb 15y ago
    Exactly. I think open source is just a buzzword for them. There is still money concerns behind this service. I was quite disappointed since I was expecting a "Source" link that goes to github or somewhere.
    - MichaelApproved 15y ago
      I don't see how this is not open source yet. Just because they are limiting access to the actual source doesn't mean that, when you finally do get past the invite wall and see the source, you don't have all the open rights they assign to it. It's open source behind an invite wall. Once you get it, it should come with the OSS lincenses. I'm assuming.
      - RyanMcGreal 15y ago
        It's open source insofar as the code, when it is released, will be released under an open licence. However, it fails the 'unofficial' criterion of a project that is developed in the open. See also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SARbwvhupQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SARbwvhupQ
    - bmj 15y ago
      Having source on GitHub is not the only definition of "open source." The generally accepted definition is that the source is available (you may have to ask for it), it might be free (you might be charged for media, though that is less of concern here in the future), and the recipient can modify and redistribute the source. It might be more appropriate if the site had text like "if you are interested in the source code, please email us." As it stands, it does seem like they are selectively releasing the source (and this is an assumption, right, since the site doesn't say "request an invite and get the source?").
    - chalst 15y ago
      Wrt. their Spider Oak backup service, from https://spideroak.com/faq/questions/35/why_isnt_spideroak_open_source_yet_when_will_it_be/ https://spideroak.com/faq/questions/35/why_isnt_spideroak_op... "Our founders and engineers have a strong open source background and we consider a contributory relationship with the FOSS community as the normal course of business. Thus, our plan all along has been to make our entire client-side code base open source; however, as anyone who has worked with such issues knows, it is often not quite that simple." So they say they want to be good, but not quite yet. I've posted a question about nimbus.io on that page.
  - asharp 15y ago
    I think somebody is making unfounded assumptions about the mental state of another person. A common, albeit embarrassing mistake to make. And yes, I know full well what it means :)

by asharp 15y ago

SaltwaterC 15y ago

Says right there on the front page: "Build by SpiderOak on the same proven backend storage network which powers hundreds of thousands of backups".

MichaelApproved 15y ago

"I don't see a download source button. Is that just me?" Says right there on the front page: "We are currently in private beta. Please sign-up and we will send you an invitation as soon as we are ready!" Presumably, the download is behind the invite-wall.

cperciva 15y ago
I think someone's confused about what "100% open source" means.
- alpb 15y ago
  Exactly. I think open source is just a buzzword for them. There is still money concerns behind this service. I was quite disappointed since I was expecting a "Source" link that goes to github or somewhere.
  - MichaelApproved 15y ago
    I don't see how this is not open source yet. Just because they are limiting access to the actual source doesn't mean that, when you finally do get past the invite wall and see the source, you don't have all the open rights they assign to it. It's open source behind an invite wall. Once you get it, it should come with the OSS lincenses. I'm assuming.
    - RyanMcGreal 15y ago
      It's open source insofar as the code, when it is released, will be released under an open licence. However, it fails the 'unofficial' criterion of a project that is developed in the open. See also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SARbwvhupQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SARbwvhupQ
  - bmj 15y ago
    Having source on GitHub is not the only definition of "open source." The generally accepted definition is that the source is available (you may have to ask for it), it might be free (you might be charged for media, though that is less of concern here in the future), and the recipient can modify and redistribute the source. It might be more appropriate if the site had text like "if you are interested in the source code, please email us." As it stands, it does seem like they are selectively releasing the source (and this is an assumption, right, since the site doesn't say "request an invite and get the source?").
  - chalst 15y ago
    Wrt. their Spider Oak backup service, from https://spideroak.com/faq/questions/35/why_isnt_spideroak_open_source_yet_when_will_it_be/ https://spideroak.com/faq/questions/35/why_isnt_spideroak_op... "Our founders and engineers have a strong open source background and we consider a contributory relationship with the FOSS community as the normal course of business. Thus, our plan all along has been to make our entire client-side code base open source; however, as anyone who has worked with such issues knows, it is often not quite that simple." So they say they want to be good, but not quite yet. I've posted a question about nimbus.io on that page.
- asharp 15y ago
  I think somebody is making unfounded assumptions about the mental state of another person. A common, albeit embarrassing mistake to make. And yes, I know full well what it means :)