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Even according to this, murder and manslaughter is significantly up in the last 2 years. But you're also ignoring the fact that in other parts of the country t

Even according to this, murder and manslaughter is significantly up in the last 2 years. But you're also ignoring the fact that in other parts of the country these crime rates are 1-10% of these numbers. NYC could be much safer, if the right policies were applied.

pixl97 4y ago
Isn't manslaughter up all across the US in the last 2 years... attempting to use a pandemic as a stat and then say it's a trend is on the border of unethical.
lancesells 4y ago
No doubt it could be safer but I'm asking you to explain how NYC gave up on crime. In 20 years the crime rate looks like it went down maybe ~45%? I believe the south has the highest per capita murder rate which is mostly Republican led. It's states with lower education and higher poverty that have high murder rates. I think blaming Democrats or Republicans is misguided. We're a country pretty evenly split and there's no place that's a panacea.
- UnpossibleJim 4y ago
  For some reason no one wants to blame a lack of education, poverty or a lack of opportunity on crime (per your above statement). Everyone wants to get into these weird, esoteric arguments about what might have cause the crime rates that aren't germane to the actual, easily identifiable problems... most likely so no one has to try and solve those issues.
hellomyguys 4y ago
Violent crime is up in many places. In fact it has increased more in Rural America more than it has in NYC. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/10/blame-rural-crime-wave/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/10/blame-rur...
selfportrait 4y ago
Crime is up after the lull that was the COVID lockdowns. Less crimes occurred when everyone was at home and the economy was essentially halted. Great argument.
octernion 4y ago
curious what you think the "right policies" are; the vast majority of high crime areas are republican controlled, so it can't be that.

pixl97 4y ago

Isn't manslaughter up all across the US in the last 2 years... attempting to use a pandemic as a stat and then say it's a trend is on the border of unethical.

lancesells 4y ago

No doubt it could be safer but I'm asking you to explain how NYC gave up on crime. In 20 years the crime rate looks like it went down maybe ~45%? I believe the south has the highest per capita murder rate which is mostly Republican led. It's states with lower education and higher poverty that have high murder rates. I think blaming Democrats or Republicans is misguided. We're a country pretty evenly split and there's no place that's a panacea.

UnpossibleJim 4y ago
For some reason no one wants to blame a lack of education, poverty or a lack of opportunity on crime (per your above statement). Everyone wants to get into these weird, esoteric arguments about what might have cause the crime rates that aren't germane to the actual, easily identifiable problems... most likely so no one has to try and solve those issues.

hellomyguys 4y ago

Violent crime is up in many places. In fact it has increased more in Rural America more than it has in NYC. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/10/blame-rural-crime-wave/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/10/blame-rur...

selfportrait 4y ago

Crime is up after the lull that was the COVID lockdowns. Less crimes occurred when everyone was at home and the economy was essentially halted. Great argument.

octernion 4y ago

curious what you think the "right policies" are; the vast majority of high crime areas are republican controlled, so it can't be that.