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What is the science you refer to re: abortion? When the fetus is able to survive outside the mother? When fertilization occurs? At what time in between? I w

What is the science you refer to re: abortion? When the fetus is able to survive outside the mother? When fertilization occurs? At what time in between? I would think the non-religious argument is that "when the fetus is viable on its own outside the womb". This has moved backwards some number of weeks as medicine has improved, but I would think it's somewhere in the 6th month? And most of people's beliefs about things like when life starts are formed by or based on religion. And in the states currently banning abortion there does not seem to be any effort to actually keep pre- or post-birth children alive. It's limited to "you can't actively terminate a pregnancy/life, but it's ok to let it die by apathy".

verdverm 4y ago
Viability outside the womb is typically later than consciousness begins, emotions develop, awareness of surroundings starts, and pain is felt. There is certainly an overlap with animal consciousness and our sentiments towards animal cruelty that I rarely see contributed to the context of these conversations. Point is that the world will never agree on a single answer, and so having a single rule for everyone doesn't make sense either. > I would think the non-religious argument is that "when the fetus is viable on its own outside the womb"/ and you would be wrong, because within the non-religious group, you get the full spectrum of opinions. You still seem attached to the idea that this is a religious debate, it is not. Complicate that with someone who believes life begins at conception, but still also supports pro-choice, something of a libertarian point of view. I know religious people, who believe life starts at conception, yet more than one who has had an abortion despite this. Life is messy, complicated, and full of hypocrisy.

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What is the science you refer to re: abortion? When the fetus is able to survive outside the mother? When fertilization occurs? At what time in between? I w

by jleyank 4y ago

verdverm 4y ago
Viability outside the womb is typically later than consciousness begins, emotions develop, awareness of surroundings starts, and pain is felt. There is certainly an overlap with animal consciousness and our sentiments towards animal cruelty that I rarely see contributed to the context of these conversations. Point is that the world will never agree on a single answer, and so having a single rule for everyone doesn't make sense either. > I would think the non-religious argument is that "when the fetus is viable on its own outside the womb"/ and you would be wrong, because within the non-religious group, you get the full spectrum of opinions. You still seem attached to the idea that this is a religious debate, it is not. Complicate that with someone who believes life begins at conception, but still also supports pro-choice, something of a libertarian point of view. I know religious people, who believe life starts at conception, yet more than one who has had an abortion despite this. Life is messy, complicated, and full of hypocrisy.