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How do you determine if someone is "the center of attention"? Could someone record ultra high res video using an ultra wide lens, then privately crop the video

How do you determine if someone is "the center of attention"? Could someone record ultra high res video using an ultra wide lens, then privately crop the video at will?

sbf501 4y ago
I think society will need to start coming to terms with this. The concept of "it is public, so it is fair game" can no longer be applied.
- fastball 4y ago
  I feel like you kinda have it backwards though, at least in regard to the parent comment. The objective standard of "you're in public so it's fair game" doesn't care if you have ultra-high resolution footage, if you're hiding in a bush, if you're doing X or Y so it's very easy to apply. Meanwhile "someone can't be the focus without consent" is a somewhat subjective standard that could easily become hard to apply.
  - sbf501 4y ago
    Let's start from the beginning, do you understand what "consent" means?
sschueller 4y ago
If you post the cropped video online then the "center of attention" is clear. Most videos posted online like this of the woman the center of attention is quite clear. If you are posting a video of a group of people whom happen to just be there it's also clear that it wasn't the intent of the video to record those people. Yes, it's subjective but the point of the law is to not completely outlaw video taping but to protect peoples privacy. You also always have the option to blur peoples faces/beep their voice and then there is no issue when posting the video online. You can post a video of a person "freaking out" as long as they are not identifiable. I don't see a difference between when someone records you with an ultra wide lens/high res than if someone is using a hidden camera at a pool. Both are illegal and most people except creeps aren't doing it.
rlpb 4y ago
A court would decide. They usually consider intent. I don't know about Switzerland specifically, but usually the restriction on this kind of right is on distribution/publication.

How do you determine if someone is "the center of attention"? Could someone record ultra high res video using an ultra wide lens, then privately crop the video at will?

sbf501 4y ago

I think society will need to start coming to terms with this. The concept of "it is public, so it is fair game" can no longer be applied.

fastball 4y ago
I feel like you kinda have it backwards though, at least in regard to the parent comment. The objective standard of "you're in public so it's fair game" doesn't care if you have ultra-high resolution footage, if you're hiding in a bush, if you're doing X or Y so it's very easy to apply. Meanwhile "someone can't be the focus without consent" is a somewhat subjective standard that could easily become hard to apply.
- sbf501 4y ago
  Let's start from the beginning, do you understand what "consent" means?

sschueller 4y ago

If you post the cropped video online then the "center of attention" is clear. Most videos posted online like this of the woman the center of attention is quite clear. If you are posting a video of a group of people whom happen to just be there it's also clear that it wasn't the intent of the video to record those people. Yes, it's subjective but the point of the law is to not completely outlaw video taping but to protect peoples privacy. You also always have the option to blur peoples faces/beep their voice and then there is no issue when posting the video online. You can post a video of a person "freaking out" as long as they are not identifiable. I don't see a difference between when someone records you with an ultra wide lens/high res than if someone is using a hidden camera at a pool. Both are illegal and most people except creeps aren't doing it.

rlpb 4y ago

A court would decide. They usually consider intent. I don't know about Switzerland specifically, but usually the restriction on this kind of right is on distribution/publication.