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Depends on discount rates. The value of a company is the net present value (NPV) of its discounted cash flow (DCF). P/E is just a kludge to simplify the much mo
by dcolkitt 4y ago
Depends on discount rates. The value of a company is the net present value (NPV) of its discounted cash flow (DCF). P/E is just a kludge to simplify the much more complex DCF analysis.
And it's pretty clear that interest rates have been steadily falling for 40 years[1]. Arguably 500 years[2]. Is there temporary variation around the business cycle? Sure. But in the long-term it's extremely unlikely we return to the There's strong macro evidence that interest rates are heavily influenced by demographics[3]. And despite what happens this recession, the population isn't going to stop aging.
All of this to say that historical appeals to "normal" P/E ratios is extremely misguiding. We're probably never going back to a world where single digit P/E ratios are the long-term norm, because we're probably never going back to a world with 5% real interest rates are the norm.
[1]https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/REAINTRATREARAT10Y https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/REAINTRATREARAT10Y
[2]https://www.visualcapitalist.com/700-year-decline-of-interest-rates/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/700-year-decline-of-interes...
[3]https://www.frbsf.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/4-Thwaites-demographic-trends-and-the-real-interest-rate.pdf https://www.frbsf.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/4-Thwaites-...
- _ink_ 4y agoIn the big picture interest rates have been falling since 800 years (p. 13 [1]). [1] - https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/working-paper/2020/eight-centuries-of-global-real-interest-rates-r-g-and-the-suprasecular-decline-1311-2018.pdf https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/working-pa...