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So you're telling me that the government should build millions of new units in NYC, until they control 40% of the market? Am I understanding that correctly?

treeman79 4y ago
I think he wants the government to seize housing from others. Which will ensure that absolutely no one develops anything in that state again
- martin_a 4y ago
  Bullshit. Vienna hasn't seized those properties, they just invested and built them themselves. NYC could to the same.
throwaway5959 4y ago
If the private market won’t do it, why not?
- rglullis 4y ago
  Because the private market can't do it. When most cities in the US have 80%+ of its land zoned for single-family units, developers can not build anything other than expensive McMansions.
  - Swizec 4y ago
    > cities in the US have 80+ of its land zoned for single-family units How is that even a city? Single family zoning is a suburban desert at best. Even remote villages have more life and vibrancy than that.
    - gamegoblin 4y ago
      80% of Seattle is zoned for single family units. It's not exactly a suburban desert, but it could be much better. Unfortunately, even very limited legislation (HB 1782) allowing upzoning to duplexes/quadplexes ("missing middle" housing) within walking distance of public transit hubs failed earlier this year. NIMBYism abounds.
  - missedthecue 4y ago
    Don't forget parking minimums, rent control, environmental studies in excess of what is needed, and the endless town-halls full of people trying to veto change. All this just to build an apartment complex. You have to retain half the state bar to build anything around me and consequences are evident in the rent prices.
- jefftk 4y ago
  Most of Manhattan is built out to the maximum allowed by zoning, but we could raise those limits
kuschku 4y ago
Seize the less developed parts, and build high-density affordable housing there. Yes, that’s the only action that’d have a chance at solving this issue.
jbverschoor 4y ago
Create better and cheaper transport and the problem will go away

treeman79 4y ago

I think he wants the government to seize housing from others. Which will ensure that absolutely no one develops anything in that state again

martin_a 4y ago
Bullshit. Vienna hasn't seized those properties, they just invested and built them themselves. NYC could to the same.

throwaway5959 4y ago

If the private market won’t do it, why not?

rglullis 4y ago
Because the private market can't do it. When most cities in the US have 80%+ of its land zoned for single-family units, developers can not build anything other than expensive McMansions.
- Swizec 4y ago
  > cities in the US have 80+ of its land zoned for single-family units How is that even a city? Single family zoning is a suburban desert at best. Even remote villages have more life and vibrancy than that.
  - gamegoblin 4y ago
    80% of Seattle is zoned for single family units. It's not exactly a suburban desert, but it could be much better. Unfortunately, even very limited legislation (HB 1782) allowing upzoning to duplexes/quadplexes ("missing middle" housing) within walking distance of public transit hubs failed earlier this year. NIMBYism abounds.
- missedthecue 4y ago
  Don't forget parking minimums, rent control, environmental studies in excess of what is needed, and the endless town-halls full of people trying to veto change. All this just to build an apartment complex. You have to retain half the state bar to build anything around me and consequences are evident in the rent prices.
jefftk 4y ago
Most of Manhattan is built out to the maximum allowed by zoning, but we could raise those limits

kuschku 4y ago

Seize the less developed parts, and build high-density affordable housing there. Yes, that’s the only action that’d have a chance at solving this issue.

jbverschoor 4y ago

Create better and cheaper transport and the problem will go away