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Moreover artist communities flourish in urban spaces with cheap rent, like New York in the 1970s, Paris in the 1920s, Berlin in the 1990s and so on. Without tha
by danjac 4y ago
Moreover artist communities flourish in urban spaces with cheap rent, like New York in the 1970s, Paris in the 1920s, Berlin in the 1990s and so on. Without that you just end up with Dubai or Monaco with shittier weather.
- cies 4y ago> Without that you just end up with Dubai or Monaco with shittier weather. Well put, had to laugh.
- v7p1Qbt1im 4y agoExactly. Wealthy residents should at some point realize that culture and entertainment venues/options are (often) created by lower income residents. If that disappears you get soulless places which are dramatically less fun to live in. Not to mention the service industry workers, who also need to come from somewhere.
- sorkin78 4y agoHow simple. Have any suggestions for implementation?
- Ekaros 4y agoYou can get all that online. So it might make sense to move these communities to somewhere very very cheap. Or even distribute them around.
- zx8080 4y agoIsn't it known as Tiktok?
- jjulius 4y ago>You can get all that online. No, you can't.
- moomoo11 4y agoAh yes let’s go to each other’s massive meta verse homes (we all really live in those cell room apartments) to view NFT galleries.
- randomopining 4y agoYeah lol, all these people think we are gonna do it online. Nobody wants to waste their life looking at that stuff for entertainment
- SamoyedFurFluff 4y agoTell me you haven’t attended an artist commune without telling me you haven’t attended an artist commune. There’s very little like seeing someone’s performance art in person, or walking through an art installation with other artsy friends, or attending a workshop (the fees paying local artists).
- kristjansson 4y agoNot even so esoteric as communes and performance art! Even 'normal' galleries, theater, music, are inherently analogue, physical experiences that don't translate to digital reproduction.
- nonameiguess 4y agoIf they could get it online, they wouldn't be bothering to pay the premium to live in Manhattan.
- kristjansson 4y agoThat's a pretty grim scenario to imagine. Art and artists 'moved' off somewhere, while the putatively rich consume their produce through screens. All so real estate prices can climb higher?
- AlwaysRock 4y agoMy wife and I watched Chris Rock from the front row at the Comedy Cellar last summer. Total cost was like $75 with drinks. Absolutely incredible. I could watch every incredible stand up special available online and it wouldnt be anywhere close to that in person experience.
- 11101010001100 4y agoThe big guys tour. It's the little guys that are interesting....
- AlwaysRock 4y agoHe was performing at the comedy cellar unannounced to a 50 person room...
- peanuty1 4y agoWould it be such a bad thing if those artists move to, say, St. Louis and create the next big thriving art hub there?
- popularrecluse 4y agoArtists tend towards progressive locales.
- dredmorbius 4y agoSee, for example, Marfa, TX. Artists seek low costs. They tend to create progressive locales. Then the gentrification cycle sets in. I'm not saying all low-rent regions will attract art, but it's possible to generate some pretty significant cultural shifts. San Francisco / Berkeley becoming capitals of counterculture was not an entirely obvious outcome from the perspective of the 1930s, 40s, or 50s. A friend recalls the Haight-Ashbury when it was largely a Greek ethnic neighbourhood.
- devb 4y agoWhy would an artist who wants an opportunity to live somewhere as exciting as NYC want to move to St. Louis? Even if St. Louis did manage to become an artistic hub, what would stop it from going through the usual gentrification cycle and becoming unaffordable to regular people the way Portland, Austin, Oakland (not to mention Bushwick, Crown Heights, Bed-Stuy) have?
- halfmatthalfcat 4y agoMight as well be in Chicago, which has probably the most reasonable CoL for any big city in the US.
- csomar 4y agoHave you checked the recent rent surges? I'm not sure if it's the summer, but any hotel room in the loop is $300+ per night. Airbnb is just a scam there.
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- randomsearch 4y agoIndeed, be careful NYC. It’s a place full of amazingly creative people but let the rents climb and you’ll end up like London.