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Huh, so what are you arguing for exactly? No justice system? What happens to murderers?

• betwixthewires 4y ago
  I don't think anyone is arguing for anything man, they're just pointing out that forcing people to work, conviction or not, is, in fact, slavery. If you think that slavery in those cases is justified, that's a different discussion. But it is slavery, plain and simple.
  • kthielen 4y ago
    You are right, except to the extent that “people SAY the 13th amendment ended slavery but it really codified it man” recasts what happened in the civil war and what purpose people had in fighting and dying to get it passed. Some people today want the glory of abolitionist revolution without having to pay with their own blood. Yeah, maybe you can make an argument that the justice system can work differently in one way or another with diff tradeoffs, but if you set up the argument so that you’re in a morally superior position to the people who fought and died in the civil war to end slavery, you should expect and you definitely deserve very strong opposition.