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Scorched Earth: The Mother of All Games
- nullc 4y agoThis was a favorite game at my house when I was 11 or 12. Turn based multiplayer meant everyone could participate. :)
- scoofy 4y agoMe too, i absolutely loved it. We used to play 6 player games if i remember correctly.
- skirmish 4y agoI spent so many hours on it. Then I got my first job, and one co-worker I worked closely with was: Wendell Hicken. One day he casually mentioned, I wrote Scorch, was a lot of fun to program. Only then I connected dots.
- vesinisa 4y agoConnected dots - with a MIRV, right?
- dwd 4y ago...or a funky bomb.
- TedDoesntTalk 4y agoI was in college when this game was released. I spent countless hours playing with my roommates. The game holds up to this day for boys under 12. After that, maybe they expect better graphics, but my experience is that interest wanes.
- greggsy 4y agoThere’s a clone on the iOS marketplace, but it has ads - I’d easy pay $7.99. There’s probably quite a few retro games that could be rebooted from this era - it has inter generational appeal among older players who grew up in that era. Might work well on the Apple Arcade ecosystem.
- fatnoah 4y agoYes! Epic Scorched Earth battles happened on my dorm floor. The only thing more competitive was getting into the leaderboard for Mute City on F-Zero.
- hilltopeagle 4y agoI lived playing scorched earth in high school with my friends.. One day, on a bout of nostalgia, I looked long and hard for a good scorched earth like game. I found shellshock live on steam, I found that it was the closest experience to playing with my friends in high school. We even got to play a couple of rounds over the Internet.
- angrygoat 4y agoI used to play this with my friends in the high school library, circa 1994-ish. The multiplayer worked pretty well, letting us share one computer and each take turns to play. A fond memory!
- mst 4y agoOMG OMG OMG squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee If you haven't played this, throw them a dollar, play it, then once you realise what utter brilliance it is send them more money to taste. The only thing whose dueling ridiculosity is on a similar level of amazing is the early Worms games.
- Markoff 4y agoYeah, first Worms games were much more fun than SE, from what I remember even the SE UI was mess compared to Worms/Lemmings UI/graphics.
- eurasiantiger 4y agoThis is one of my all time favourite games. Bomb scale = large, of course.
- qbasic_forever 4y agoI love the aesthetic of VGA DOS games like this.
- 8f2ab37a-ed6c 4y agoYes! I wonder what it is. The color palette? The limited audio palette? The spartan UX?
- Markoff 4y agoI would say lot of DOS programs and games were just using cold temperature colors, so it has specific 80/90s cold feel, I think later they started to get warmer and warmer.
- EarlKing 4y agoAt a guess? Most of those early games were made with graphics that would look good if it turns out the guy running it only had an EGA and, therefore, was restricted to a very specific set of 16 colors. It took a while for everyone to upgrade.
- Markoff 4y agoSE was released same year as very colorful Lemmings, which were not cold at all, so I don't take this excuse.
- SigmundA 4y agoLemmings was 320x240 resolution like most VGA games at the time allowing 256 colors, scorched earth was one of the first high res games doing 640x480 which only allowed 16 colors if memory serves.
- CyberDildonics 4y agoWhere does your focus on "cold" come from? These games used a specific color palette with just as many warm and cold colors.
- tempestn 4y agoScorched was amazing. I also had a lot of fun playing this 3d remake a few years ago. Might give it another shot now: http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/ http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/
- rnd0 4y agoI used to play scorch a LOT back in the day -scorch3d is a fun game but somehow it almost feels like a different game to me. If for no other reason than because you don't really have to think about the horizontal plane in regular scorch. Both are a lot of fun, though!
- jschrf 4y agoPet theory: Scorched is just a mod of GORILLA.BAS.
- qbasic_forever 4y agoThey're both just turn-based pong / tennis for two.
- warpspin 4y agoYou must have majored in topology ;-)
- King-Aaron 4y agoI'm glad someone mentioned Gorilla.bas.... many fond memories
- fho 4y agoUh ... That brought up some buried memories. GORILLAS.BAS and NIBBLES.BAS
- mike_hock 4y agoWait, you had them, too? I thought I'd stumbled upon something super secret!
- pontifier 4y agoWhat fond memories I have of this game. Just for fun reach over and hit "k" while it's your friends turn :)
- anarticle 4y agoThis was one of the first games I downloaded from a BBS when I was a teen. Funky bombs forever! I thought of Wendell Hicken as a programming god. The idea that one person could make a thing like that was amazing to me. I also remember version 1.5, the last version, having a phone shaped button for modem play and being stoked that modem play might come. Super nostalgia, here's an interview with Wendell: https://arstechnica.com/features/2005/03/scorched/ https://arstechnica.com/features/2005/03/scorched/ The quotes from the tanks were very entertaining to me.
- herewulf 4y agoNot only are the quotes great but I learned a lot of famous dictators' names as an elementary school age kid. The oddity of the names and their use in Scorched stuck with me for a long time as later in life I learned why these not-so-nice individuals were notable.
- MrVandemar 4y agoYou could add your own quotes to the tanks. My brother and I spent far too long adding one-liners from comic books and action movies to the file.
- micheljansen 4y agoRight in the nostalgia. This ran smoothly on the family 386!
- ajuc 4y agoThis was my first PC game, I haven't had a PC yet, only 1 guy in the whole village had a PC and we were visiting him with like 5 other kids to play this game. So many memories :) Thanks for this game it's great. BTW leap frog bomb was the best.
- oh_sigh 4y agoThis game is what got me addicted to programming, which basically set the course of my life since I've been doing it professionally for 20 years. I reimplemented a barebones version of it after studying qbasic for a while in an intro to programming course when I was 13, and the feeling of power and amazement it gave me has never really left. My teacher's response to seeing my game was 'your explosions don't look as good as they do in scorched earth'. He was a charlatan who I already didn't respect so the feedback didn't really affect me, but I can only imagine how crushed I would have been if I was one of those who were naturally respectful of authority...I honestly have no idea what I would be doing, since I don't really have any other useful skills.
- int_19h 4y agoThere was a similar game for DOS at around the same time called "Tank Wars", except that one was written for VGA 320x200x256 graphics. I wonder how many people remember it. https://dosgames.com/game/tank-wars/ https://dosgames.com/game/tank-wars/
- anigbrowl 4y agoI do! Loved it. My favorite tactic was dropping a dirt bomb and watching my enemies nuke themselves.
- pdw 4y agoI always preferred Tank Wars over Scorched Earth
- hantusk 4y agoMe too! It had a cheat code, so if you set the power to a certain amount it would shoot through the grass
- creativeembassy 4y ago… BRB, installing tank wars again. What was the cheat code?
- lgg 4y ago800, but it only worked if you were at 100% health.
- prawn 4y agoYep, played the crap out of Tank Wars - the AI tank personalities, levels with strong wind, the weapon shop, etc. So good!
- gattilorenz 4y agoI personally loved the isometric 3D version, Genocide: https://archive.org/details/Genocide_1020 https://archive.org/details/Genocide_1020
- Markoff 4y agoWhile I liked playing it with my cousin I fail to see how is game from 1991 "the mother of all games" when I enjoyed playing plenty other games already in 80s. Also as for the games from 1991 I enjoyed Crystal Caves much more playing it in father's work. Btw. I find Worms much more enjoyable/funnier, though it's pretty much same concept. edit: same year was also released Lemmings, which blows graphics/UI of this out of water, SE feels like 80's, Lemmings at least 5-10 years younger, while both were released same year
- Sin2x 4y agoIt's like in "The Mother of All Bombs"
- Markoff 4y agoyeah, but I guess those were first of the kind or biggest at time of release, don't think this has anything that unique to deserve this nickname for instance they released same year also Lemmings which has much better UI and feels much more revolutionary and many years younger than SE
- ArnoVW 4y agoThe game came out around the gulf war: I've always assumed it was a reference to Sadam Hussein's speech about "the mother of all battles" (at the beginning of Desert Storm)
- humaniania 4y agoShellShock Live on Steam is an excellent modern game in the style of Scorched Earth. It is very well done.
- bovermyer 4y agoIt really is. Of all the Scorched-likes in the last thirty years (sigh), ShellShock's my ideal modern version.
- chrischattin 4y agoThis game is perfect. Thanks for the great trip down memory lane.
- Sin2x 4y agoThis brings so many memories.
- EvanAnderson 4y agoThere was a clone game, Scorched Tanks, for the Amiga that was also loads of fun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_Tanks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_Tanks
- ben174 4y agoPile Driver! Years of my life sunk into Scorched Tanks. As an Amiga child, I have no MS DOS nostalgia. But I am pretty sure Scorched Tanks was a decent alternative.
- billpg 4y agoI remember the game music of that, "Ari San Crossroad" by "Sidewinder". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvqcW0E0osE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvqcW0E0osE (Dammit brain, I forget all sorts of useful things, but why did I remember that?)
- LocalH 4y agoCame here to say this. I found 'Earth at my school (which was filled with DOS machines, mostly IBM PS/2s), and then learned about 'Tanks through the various resources I had available in the early 90s. I never got to play it in its full glory back then - I only had an A2000 with 1MB chip RAM, so I could only play in 16 colors and (I think) with the half-size maps. It wasn't until UAE that I was actually able to play 64-color full-map 'Tanks like it was meant to be played. Even still sometimes I fire up Pocket Tanks on my PC, although the overall presentation is a bit watered down compared to Scorched Tanks, the core experience is still there. Would be nice to see a true remake of Scorched Tanks someday.
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- floren 4y agoI propagated this across half a dozen classroom computers back in middle school, armed with a single floppy disk. It made the span between the end of cross country practice and the time the sports bus took us home a lot more fun.
- sen 4y agoThis game was such a huge part of my life. It was one of the only games I had for a long time, and I put more hours into it than I could count. I ended up making my own “modern” (winxp) version of it with p2p multiplayer to play with friends (never released it, it was an utter mess), and I’ve made half a dozen other versions over the year to practice different game engines or game dev libraries in various languages. It’s just such an iconic game to me personally.
- eurasiantiger 4y agoDid you ever make a WebRTC version?
- Toblerone 4y agoI now realize where Pocket Tanks got its inspiration.
- pabs3 4y agoA couple of open source clones of it: http://www.xscorch.org/ http://www.xscorch.org/ http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/ http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/
- Nursie 4y agoIf anyone would like to play a somewhat updated version of it right now then I highly recommend Atomic Tanks. This can be installed on debian/ubuntu with a quick "sudo apt-get install atanks", but is available on windows and other platforms too. (https://atanks.sourceforge.io/ https://atanks.sourceforge.io/)
- pcblues 4y agoI can't (but I will) tell you how much Scorched Earth rocked in the early 1990's at uni. It was a winnable game for people who sucked at xpilot :) Thanks for the mammaries people ;)
- fho 4y agoOne game I wasted my school years with was XKobo (http://zkobo.online.fr/xkobo.html http://zkobo.online.fr/xkobo.html). So simple, yet so addictive.
- malkia 4y agoGreat Game - also - how the fuck were they able to run in this weird VGA/SVGA mode? Something bitplanes, etc. - it wasn't your standard 320x200x256 colors. (Sorry, but back then in Bulgaria the literature on CGI/EGA/VGA was zero, and Ralph Brown's interrupt list only did that much)....
- denzil 4y agoMy guess would be Mode X, it was quite popular in games at the DOS/VGA times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_X https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_X
- bananaboy 4y agoThe default resolution is 360x480x256 colour, a variant on mode X also described by Abrash in his Dr Dobbs articles!
- malkia 4y agoWe didn't had access to that book then on, but it was described in various .txt files from demo groups, though I've found them later (like arround assembly 93 or 94 came out)
- npteljes 4y agoPlayable online on archive.org: https://archive.org/details/msdos_Scorched_Earth_1991 https://archive.org/details/msdos_Scorched_Earth_1991
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- staplung 4y agoLoved Scorched Earth. Had this fun bug/feature related to the weapons market. Between rounds you used your earnings to buy more weapons for the next round. There was an option to make it a "free market" which meant that the prices would get jacked on the weapons that you bought most often. But - and I didn't know this at the time - the price of an item was represented as a signed int so if you jacked the price high enough (which didn't take long) the price would flip over to a very high magnitude negative number and they'd literally pay you to take the nukes/MIRVs/dirt-bombs/napalm off their hands. Good times.
- johnnylambada 4y agoOne of my favorite games of all time, begin (a text based Star Trek game) has a similar bug where you could warp in the negative direction at infinite speed. I still remember the commands: w 90 -100, f a t. (warp 90 degrees at warp -100, fire all torpedoes!). Assuming the enemy was 270 degrees from you —- you’d fly the ship backwards at them! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begin_(video_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begin_(video_game)
- JoeAltmaier 4y agoI know the guy who wrote that - Tom Nelson. I don't think he knows this bug! I'll let him know (he's rewriting it in a client-server version for multiple players).
- fennecfoxen 4y agoBugs aside, the Free Market mode makes for a really nice dynamic where you had to get good at all sorts of different tactics and weapons, instead of just being good at one of them.
- LocalH 4y agoAt my school, I just did the more pedestrian hack of editing the config files to change the prices of the expensive items XD
- jchw 4y agoI enjoyed playing this 3D game inspired by Scorched Earth a while ago. My memory is fuzzy but I believe I was playing it over LAN, too. It was decent entertainment. http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/ http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/
- wodenokoto 4y agoWhat’s with the tagline “mother of all games”?
- strken 4y agoI believe it's a reference to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_MOAB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_MOAB.
- detritus 4y agoYour side poster red369's more likely correct, as "the mother of all battles" was quite a well-known meme during Gulf War I - especially given the MOAB was designed in the early 00s, which is a while after this game's release.
- red369 4y agoI’m going to offer a different suggestion to the sibling post, and say it’s probably referencing The Mother of all Battles - a phrase that kicked up a lot of fuss in 1991: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowclone#The_mother_of_all_X https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowclone#The_mother_of_all_...
- whicken 4y agoYes, that's exactly on point. The other half of the meaning relates to the quotes - it's not the videogame that's the "Mother of All Games" - it's war itself (meant cynically, of course). People in power scorching the earth is one of the oldest games.
- somat 4y agoI think it was a sort of in joke on a popular news topic in the era. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Babylon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Babylon The press, I distinctly recall, liked to call it. "The mother of all guns" However I am unable to find a citation in the 30 seconds I spent looking for it.
- bencollier49 4y agoGreat timing. My children have friends around. I am now playing Scorched Earth with four 9-year-olds.
- jonathanlydall 4y agoI really enjoyed this game when I played it in the mid to early 90s, except that the copy I got had a virus. I suppose it's a lesson against piracy.
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y agoI never could understand the appeal of later Worms games, Scorched Earth was far superior. It has some minor flaw in it's economy: winning player had so much more money to spend on equipment, that it was very hard for a loser of a round to ever catch up, even with a far superior shooting.
- Markoff 4y agoWorms had superior graphics, superior UI, funnier weapons, funnier gameplay with cute worms and no economy from what I remember, so players were equal.
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y agoYou also played as a worm. Eew.
- eurasiantiger 4y agoIIRC there are settings for the economy. Also all the shooting/dying quotes can be changed, which was very amusing to us 10-year-olds.
- muzani 4y agoIf the genre was remade today, we'd have Minions instead of Worms.
- SamBam 4y agoWorms was my brother and my jam. We would play it all the time, and would give the worms personalities, and sometimes even avoid using a weapon with one worm because another worm was the "expert grenade thrower" or ninja or digger or whatever. The silliness, combined with the ability to rapidly traverse terrain (but only if you were skillful) was what made it fun, and more like a game than a math problem. I can't recall whether we felt that the best of the series was Worms 2 or Armageddon, but they were in the sweet-spot of the properly-bendy ninja rope, and cartoony and funny but no weird 3d stuff.
- soapdog 4y agoomg, that is my favourite multiplayer game. So many memories! :D
- Tade0 4y agoAs a kid I played a "paper version" of this on summer camp with my friends using a pencil, eraser, piece of paper and a compass(as in: the drawing tool) because I had no notion of ballistics.
- JohnDeHope 4y agoAny similar iOS games with multiplayer?
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- Zircom 4y agoPocket Tanks is a later version of this I played with my grandfather on his PC growing up, its available in the app store for both iOS and Android, I play it with my brother all the time.
- rubyist5eva 4y agoMy uncle was the only one with a gaming PC in my family and many many sleepovers were had playing Doom and Scorched Earth all night with my cousin. Nothing quite has captured that magic since then for me. Elden Ring gets pretty close, but that’s a solo experience more akin to the kind of influence Ocarina of Time had than Doom, I guess. Maybe I’m just old and cynical.
- fullstop 4y agoIt is quite difficult to get it running these days, but Scorch 2000 was a lot of fun after hours at the office. http://scorch2000.com/ http://scorch2000.com/
- NoGravitas 4y agoI played the hell out of this in like 1991-1993. I really enjoyed figuring out useful combos to bypass shields. Like, instead of attacking your opponent's shields directly, you could dig a hole under them, and fill it with napalm, or send rollers under their magnetic deflector. Most of the people I played against found this kind of thing surprising.
- greggsy 4y agoI had no idea it was so popular - it certainly was in my household. I remember finally upgrading to a colour monitor. The ‘cheat’ mode of assigning yourself max cash great for practice. Also, firing a MIRV straight up at max power with wrap around walls would spread them out across the field of play. I’m not sure if it was just the copy I had, but there was an NPC called ‘bastard’ that was really tough to beat.
- erellsworth 4y agoI played this with friends in middle school. We found the text file that contained the messages that displayed when a player launched an attack or died, and edited them to include Monty Python quotes. I didn't have a lot of friends, haha.
- omniglottal 4y agoI, with just the one nerd friend, did the very same - "It's just a flesh wound!"
- rentonl 4y agoSpent so much time playing this. There was a spiritual successor of sorts called "Pocket Tanks" in 2001 which was also a lot of fun.
- adamrezich 4y agoI was just talking about Pocket Tanks the other day, for the first time in years... for some reason, the demo version was preinstalled on all of the iMacs in my school district growing up. this got me to thinking, I'm not a Mac guy so I'm not really sure but there's no way it actually shipped with MacOS, right? it must've been put in by a distributor, whoever did the deal with our district. well, on behalf of myself and the rest of my cohort: thank you, that game was dope.
- mgdlbp 4y agoSimilar games others have mentioned aren't necessarily clones of this one--the genre comes from the 1970s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_game > Artillery games are two or three-player (usually turn-based) video games involving tanks (or simply cannons) trying to destroy each other. The core mechanics of the gameplay is almost always to aim at the opponent(s) following a ballistic trajectory (in its simplest form, a parabolic curve). > Artillery games are among the earliest computer games developed; the theme of such games is an extension of the original uses of computer themselves, which were once used to calculate the trajectories of rockets and other related military-based calculations.[citation needed] > Early precursors to the modern artillery-type games were text-only games that simulated artillery entirely with input data values. One of the earliest known games in the genre is War 3 for two or three players, written in FOCAL Mod V by Mike Forman (date unknown). The game was then ported to TSS/8 BASIC IV by M. E. Lyon Jr. in 1972. Ported again to [...]
- i_am_proteus 4y agoHere's yer needed citation, hoss: http://www.glennsmuseum.com/bombsights/ http://www.glennsmuseum.com/bombsights/
- mgdlbp 4y agoI think the needed citation is actually for the statement that the earliest such games were inspired by the practical application, which is indeed well documented.
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- booleanbetrayal 4y agoWhat a great nostalgia blast! This game occupied so many cycles of my early teenage years. Thanks for the memories!
- krallja 4y agoI didn’t have a PC, but I did have a PlayStation and a Blockbuster card. I rented Worms one weekend, and never returned it. Just told them it was lost, and paid the fine. What a fun genre.
- LocalPCGuy 4y agoMan, I played this game so much way back in it's heyday. I loved figuring out all the various tactics, and trying to get hits without just trial and error (actually figuring out, or at least estimating, the math). Any web versions floating around?
- davidkuennen 4y agoI liked this game so much I created a clone of it in my teens.
- Khaine 4y agoI loved scorched earth as a kid. It was great fun. I must find a copy and play it again.
- coryfklein 4y ago> find a copy That's literally exactly what the link is!
- nikolay 4y agoI've spent endless hours playing Super Artillery on Apple ][!
- compiler-guy 4y agoFirst tank game I ever played. Such a good game. Created a lifelong love of the genre.
- lubesGordi 4y agoSo this game has been done and redone a million times, and is one of the first games I ever played on Bally Astrocade. I believe it was called Artillery? Does that ring a bell for anyone here? We didn't have the actual cartridge, but an eprom that had the binary flashed to it. My dad was into that sort of thing back then.
- bashinator 4y agoAnd its direct successor, Scorched3D. http://scorched3d.co.uk/ http://scorched3d.co.uk/
- brzezmac 4y agoScorch is the ultimate gaming experience. In primary school we would always finish computer science classes with a game (or a few) of Scorch. Recently I've shown this game to my kids (10 and 8 years old) and they were really excited to play it. They don't make games like they used to anymore.
- allenrb 4y agoOh man, I'm pushing 50 and my friends and I played the hell out of this "back in the day". I just sent $10 with a big "thank you" note.
- danielodievich 4y agoPlayed while growing up in crumbling to pieces Soviet Union in 1991. We'd regularly have 7-10 kids (I think 10 players max it supports) crowding in a little cubby room around our venerable 286 with turbo button. I don't know how we fit around it or how my parents really handled it all but we sure had a lot of fun. Fast forward to now, and I played this game in an online emulator with my teenage sons, having just as much fun as back then lobby Funky Bombs and Baby Nukes at each other. My children love the Insult-On-Death mode and random wall actions. They have just as much fun with these tiny EGA pixels as with the modern graphics masterpieces like Elden Ring and Halo Infinite.
- jordo 4y agoScorched was an inspiration for our battle-royale online version: https://rocketbotroyale.winterpixel.io https://rocketbotroyale.winterpixel.io
- platz 4y agoWow, so it's pay-to-win, huh
- jquery 4y agoGod I loved this game. Perfect for its time.
- donaldihunter 4y agoPlayed this for most of a transatlantic flight with my colleague. We discussed how it might work in 3D. Then he went off and wrote Scorched 3D.
- KronisLV 4y agoIn case anyone would like to check it out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_3D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_3D It did seem like a nice project!
- ericb 4y agoI don't know the game, but I recognized the name. Werecat is a very cool project by this author! http://www.whicken.com/werecat/overview.html http://www.whicken.com/werecat/overview.html The Werecat Rules Engine is a freely available framework for building and evaluating simple, hierarchical rule structures. Using Java reflection, you can easily plug in your own data and functions to create a highly dynamic rules-based structure with very little coding effort.
- etempleton 4y agoI loved this game as a kid. One of the first games I had at my house and didn’t play a a cousin or friends house. I never could understand why my peers liked Worms when this game was better in every way.