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Covid pretty much killed any interest I had. I used to play PoGo with my LARP friends at our weekly game.... it's a lot less fun when everyone only goes anywhe

Covid pretty much killed any interest I had. I used to play PoGo with my LARP friends at our weekly game.... it's a lot less fun when everyone only goes anywhere by themselves. Plus, the game itself is way too simple, and very much time-oriented, you have to be free at the right time to make the events.. I think Niantic type games would be better if they were closer to World of Warcraft in terms of game mechanics, more guild focused, more complex mechanics, etc. It's probably held back a bit by the fact that they use real location data, and it's played by kids, and there are bad people who might do bad things with that if they aren't very careful, so they probably will always have to heavily limit some of the social features. The bugginess is pretty extreme though. It's just Google maps plus a Nintendo DS era game, why is it so buggy, and why is it so intolerant of when you run out of high speed data?

idrios 4y ago
I was about to make a WoW-related comment but because you brought it up I'm going to piggy back off yours. Pokemon Go battles are just boring. PvP is a combination of reflexes and rock-paper-scissors. When WoW introduced pet battles it was a very obvious knockoff of Pokemon, but it was still actually pretty fun. PVE scenarios like the Celestial Tournament (their version of the Elite 4) could be really challenging and take a lot of planning, where you'd need to go out searching for the right combination of battle pets to win, or maybe just experiment with what you have to make it work. PvP was pretty balanced -- there were still combinations that were overpowered at times but in general what mattered more was the combinations of battle pets because of their diverse movements, where one might be for applying debuffs and another is for doing multi-attacks. In Pokemon Go pvp is just "what's your counter pokemon to bastiodon / alteria / skarmory / azumarill / galarian skunfisk / etc" and then trying to fake out your opponent by baiting shields or being clever in how you swap pokemon. It's not the worst model but it bothers me how much more fun WoW Pet Battles are when Pokemon was the source material on how it should work.
- mavhc 4y ago
  I know nothing about Pokemon, being old. But Ingress is a 2d game rather than the 0d game of Pokemon Go. Geometry matters as you link locations together
rexf 4y ago
Niantic has received a lot of (warranted IMO) criticism. That said, they did make some positive improvements during the Covid era: They increased the interaction radius for Pokestops & Gyms. They actually reverted it (at the "end" of covid), faced a giant backlash, and un-reverted it (back to the increased radius). This is a rare occurrence of Niantic actually listening to the community. They introduced remote raid passes. Remote raids are great in a pandemic since you can raid with friends from anywhere. I assume these generate a lot of income for Niantic since it's sold for 250 coins (now 300 coins) for 3 passes. What's baffling to me is how they are constantly discouraging users from doing remote raids.

idrios 4y ago

I was about to make a WoW-related comment but because you brought it up I'm going to piggy back off yours. Pokemon Go battles are just boring. PvP is a combination of reflexes and rock-paper-scissors. When WoW introduced pet battles it was a very obvious knockoff of Pokemon, but it was still actually pretty fun. PVE scenarios like the Celestial Tournament (their version of the Elite 4) could be really challenging and take a lot of planning, where you'd need to go out searching for the right combination of battle pets to win, or maybe just experiment with what you have to make it work. PvP was pretty balanced -- there were still combinations that were overpowered at times but in general what mattered more was the combinations of battle pets because of their diverse movements, where one might be for applying debuffs and another is for doing multi-attacks. In Pokemon Go pvp is just "what's your counter pokemon to bastiodon / alteria / skarmory / azumarill / galarian skunfisk / etc" and then trying to fake out your opponent by baiting shields or being clever in how you swap pokemon. It's not the worst model but it bothers me how much more fun WoW Pet Battles are when Pokemon was the source material on how it should work.

mavhc 4y ago
I know nothing about Pokemon, being old. But Ingress is a 2d game rather than the 0d game of Pokemon Go. Geometry matters as you link locations together

rexf 4y ago

Niantic has received a lot of (warranted IMO) criticism. That said, they did make some positive improvements during the Covid era: They increased the interaction radius for Pokestops & Gyms. They actually reverted it (at the "end" of covid), faced a giant backlash, and un-reverted it (back to the increased radius). This is a rare occurrence of Niantic actually listening to the community. They introduced remote raid passes. Remote raids are great in a pandemic since you can raid with friends from anywhere. I assume these generate a lot of income for Niantic since it's sold for 250 coins (now 300 coins) for 3 passes. What's baffling to me is how they are constantly discouraging users from doing remote raids.