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The elephant in the room is fraud. Tesla has been collecting thousands of dollars, each, from car buyers and utterly failing to deliver what it represented, an

• cjrp 4y ago
  Could they rely on something in the smallprint? "You're paying for access to features as they become available, no guarantee that they will" etc.
  • ncmncm 4y ago
    Juries have in the past often not been swayed by fine print, where consumers are involved. It seems to be there mainly to dissuade angry consumers from suing, rather than to win cases based on it. I would not, personally, be so dissuaded.
• elif 4y ago
  I wouldn't call it fraud. I bought it knowing it was in beta and with no timeline for production release. They haven't represented it as anything more than that. Being along for the journey is a big part of why I decided to pay.
  • asdajksah2123 4y ago
    Elon Musk has literally said in a public conference keynote that robotaxis would be running in 2019, and earning Tesla owners 30k/yr since 3 years ago, and that it would be financially foolish to buy anything but a Tesla.
    • elif 4y ago
      Can you cite that? I've heard lots of those claims repeated but never first-hand
      • ra7 4y ago
        https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-robotaxi-app-make-money-repurposing-cars-autonomous-2019-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-robotaxi-app...
        • elif 4y ago
          A journalist said "He said he thinks the program can be implemented as early as next year." Is not "literally said in a public conference keynote that robotaxis would be running in 2019"
          • ra7 4y ago
            Did you watch the video in the link? Musk says "next year, for sure, we will have over 1 million robotaxis on the road". Here is a longer video of that announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GnH_C6NrOM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GnH_C6NrOM