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That's not exactly true. Many states have laws outlawing recording "private" conversations without the consent of all parties. As far as I know that would even

by bink 4y ago

That's not exactly true. Many states have laws outlawing recording "private" conversations without the consent of all parties. As far as I know that would even include recording someone having a private conversation with you on your own property. Whether or not someone talking on their own property and their voice carrying over their property line would qualify is up for debate.

BeetleB 4y ago
That's actually a good point. I'd like to see if someone has done an analysis on this. Factors to consider: - Whether the recording was intentional (i.e. if I set up cameras for security, and it so happens to record all your conversations on your front porch, this is unintentional, but if I set up a microphone by the wall, it's intentional). - The type of communication - most resources I'm finding discuss phones and similar channels. From what I could find: I just checked one state: Video recordings are fine, but if they capture the audio of the conversation, then it's a violation of the law. Other places define a violation of reasonable expectation of privacy to require an explicit intent to eavesdrop - so if it's a side effect of my security system, it's not illegal. In a number of states, your front porch or backyard are not considered private places. If the conversation is between you and someone else (not the neighbor), then by federal law, intentionally recording the conversation is illegal (neither party consented). When it's unintentional, it'll probably vary from state to state. In most places they can point the cameras onto the exterior of your property. But if it can see inside a bedroom (even if the window is open and no curtains are drawn), it can be a violation. Interesting side effect of searching for this: Video monitoring of your baby may be illegal!
- googlryas 4y ago
  I wonder if these laws run afoul of the ADA - You can't do zero-party consent audio recordings - but you can record video, which could just as easily capture a deaf person's conversation using sign language. Basically, it sounds like this law affords protections to only certain, non-disabled citizens.

by bink 4y ago

BeetleB 4y ago

That's actually a good point. I'd like to see if someone has done an analysis on this. Factors to consider: - Whether the recording was intentional (i.e. if I set up cameras for security, and it so happens to record all your conversations on your front porch, this is unintentional, but if I set up a microphone by the wall, it's intentional). - The type of communication - most resources I'm finding discuss phones and similar channels. From what I could find: I just checked one state: Video recordings are fine, but if they capture the audio of the conversation, then it's a violation of the law. Other places define a violation of reasonable expectation of privacy to require an explicit intent to eavesdrop - so if it's a side effect of my security system, it's not illegal. In a number of states, your front porch or backyard are not considered private places. If the conversation is between you and someone else (not the neighbor), then by federal law, intentionally recording the conversation is illegal (neither party consented). When it's unintentional, it'll probably vary from state to state. In most places they can point the cameras onto the exterior of your property. But if it can see inside a bedroom (even if the window is open and no curtains are drawn), it can be a violation. Interesting side effect of searching for this: Video monitoring of your baby may be illegal!

googlryas 4y ago
I wonder if these laws run afoul of the ADA - You can't do zero-party consent audio recordings - but you can record video, which could just as easily capture a deaf person's conversation using sign language. Basically, it sounds like this law affords protections to only certain, non-disabled citizens.