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You keep conflating the type of wholesale delivery services talked about here (doordash/uber/grubhub/etc) with delivery in general. I have no problem calling a

You keep conflating the type of wholesale delivery services talked about here (doordash/uber/grubhub/etc) with delivery in general. I have no problem calling a restaurant and ordering delivery. Or ordering groceries for delivery. Neither of those delivery services is charging me a 50%+ markup to get food from them. And the quality of the food is generally much higher. Doordash and Uber are charging me a 50%+ markup. Basically - I have no problem with you preferring delivery instead of a car (hell - I made a similar choice and take public transit and bike when delivery doesn't work) I'm saying that's unrelated to the fact that you're getting swindled by these companies. If you're coming out ahead by using doordash, imagine how much money you could save if you literally just called the same fucking restaurant and ordered delivery directly. ---- As for your bet... I live in SW Atlanta. For comparison - cost of living in Atlanta is almost exactly the national average (101.8%), and the south side of the city is MUCH cheaper (I paid less than you for our house, slightly smaller at ~2200 sqft, but we got nearly a full acre of land)

scarface_74 4y ago
I happen to live in North Atlanta off of 400. Most restaurants don't have there own delivery service. If these companies aren't making money, how are they "swindling" anyone?
- horsawlarway 4y ago
  If you're in Cobb I'm going to laugh my ass off. No wonder you're averse to public transit (can't have those "undesirables" coming in). Unless you mean you're actually out near cummings or something and just claim it's Atlanta still. In which case... maybe - I don't really head up near Lake Lanier all that often. Otherwise... plenty of delivery in brookhaven/perimeter/roswell. Honestly, you probably have more options for local delivery than we have across all of these services. --- > If these companies aren't making money, how are they "swindling" anyone? Well - outside of the obvious damage discussed in the article, a simple answer might be that it's entirely unsustainable, and you're making long term plans based on services that won't exist in a year or two if interest rates keep climbing (even the CEO of grubhub calls food delivery a "crummy" business and wants to pivot to handling the advertising while kicking the delivery service back to the individual restaurants). In the mean time you're not doing anything to address the real problems with transportation in that area, and you continue to live in an area that's extremely hostile to your long terms goals of being a "digital nomad". Further... even though these companies aren't making money, it's cheaper to order your food for pickup and pay someone on taskrabbit $18/hour to go get it for you rather than add $3-$5 to every item, a $5-$10 delivery fee, and tip on that new inflated price. So yes - I'd say you're getting swindled still.
  - scarface_74 4y ago
    > If you're in Cobb I'm going to laugh my ass off. No wonder you're averse to public transit (can't have those "undesirables" coming in). I'm one of those "undesirables". When I use to go pick up my son, they immediately knew who my son was just by looking at me. Trust me, I'll be invited to a BLM rally way before I would ever be invited to a Klan rally. > Unless you mean you're actually out near cummings or something and just claim it's Atlanta still. In which case... maybe - I don't really head up near Lake Lanier all that often. Cumming is very much part of the Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell, GA MSA https://dch.georgia.gov/sites/dch.georgia.gov/files/Atlanta%20Service%20Area%20Map.pdf https://dch.georgia.gov/sites/dch.georgia.gov/files/Atlanta%... > In the mean time you're not doing anything to address the real problems with transportation in that area, and you continue to live in an area that's extremely hostile to your long terms goals of being a "digital nomad". I'll be "living" across the US and taking advantage of Uber/Uber Eats by the end of the year. > Further... even though these companies aren't making money, it's cheaper to order your food for pickup and pay someone on taskrabbit $18/hour to go get it for you rather than add $3-$5 to every item, a $5-$10 delivery fee, and tip on that new inflated price. So yes - I'd say you're getting swindled still. There is a markup. But UberEats is much more integrated into the food delivery system than a random task rabbit worker and it is still cheaper.

scarface_74 4y ago

I happen to live in North Atlanta off of 400. Most restaurants don't have there own delivery service. If these companies aren't making money, how are they "swindling" anyone?

horsawlarway 4y ago
If you're in Cobb I'm going to laugh my ass off. No wonder you're averse to public transit (can't have those "undesirables" coming in). Unless you mean you're actually out near cummings or something and just claim it's Atlanta still. In which case... maybe - I don't really head up near Lake Lanier all that often. Otherwise... plenty of delivery in brookhaven/perimeter/roswell. Honestly, you probably have more options for local delivery than we have across all of these services. --- > If these companies aren't making money, how are they "swindling" anyone? Well - outside of the obvious damage discussed in the article, a simple answer might be that it's entirely unsustainable, and you're making long term plans based on services that won't exist in a year or two if interest rates keep climbing (even the CEO of grubhub calls food delivery a "crummy" business and wants to pivot to handling the advertising while kicking the delivery service back to the individual restaurants). In the mean time you're not doing anything to address the real problems with transportation in that area, and you continue to live in an area that's extremely hostile to your long terms goals of being a "digital nomad". Further... even though these companies aren't making money, it's cheaper to order your food for pickup and pay someone on taskrabbit $18/hour to go get it for you rather than add $3-$5 to every item, a $5-$10 delivery fee, and tip on that new inflated price. So yes - I'd say you're getting swindled still.
- scarface_74 4y ago
  > If you're in Cobb I'm going to laugh my ass off. No wonder you're averse to public transit (can't have those "undesirables" coming in). I'm one of those "undesirables". When I use to go pick up my son, they immediately knew who my son was just by looking at me. Trust me, I'll be invited to a BLM rally way before I would ever be invited to a Klan rally. > Unless you mean you're actually out near cummings or something and just claim it's Atlanta still. In which case... maybe - I don't really head up near Lake Lanier all that often. Cumming is very much part of the Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Roswell, GA MSA https://dch.georgia.gov/sites/dch.georgia.gov/files/Atlanta%20Service%20Area%20Map.pdf https://dch.georgia.gov/sites/dch.georgia.gov/files/Atlanta%... > In the mean time you're not doing anything to address the real problems with transportation in that area, and you continue to live in an area that's extremely hostile to your long terms goals of being a "digital nomad". I'll be "living" across the US and taking advantage of Uber/Uber Eats by the end of the year. > Further... even though these companies aren't making money, it's cheaper to order your food for pickup and pay someone on taskrabbit $18/hour to go get it for you rather than add $3-$5 to every item, a $5-$10 delivery fee, and tip on that new inflated price. So yes - I'd say you're getting swindled still. There is a markup. But UberEats is much more integrated into the food delivery system than a random task rabbit worker and it is still cheaper.