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In Germany when you are sick you are sick, there is no limit. You will be paid and you can not be fired for it. An allotted amount of "sick days" doesn't reall

In Germany when you are sick you are sick, there is no limit. You will be paid and you can not be fired for it. An allotted amount of "sick days" doesn't really make sense anyway, not like you can choose to be sick next year. (Only exception is for long term sicknesses, if you are sick for more than 6 consecutive weeks, then the next week your health insurance will pay you 60% of your normal wage instead. Or if there is no hope of you ever being able to work, again insurance.) Oh and if you are sick on vacation you get your vacation days back as you were not really able to take advantage of them.

ghaff 4y ago
Typically, in the US there's a progression from sick days (or just a shared pool of days) to short-term disability to long-term disability at companies that have those things.
hef19898 4y ago
6 weeks per diagnosis. If say you had six weeks of Covid and break your leg on the way out of the hospital and need another six weeks, your salary will be paid. And you keep your vacation days.
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mchusma 4y ago
This seems like an insane law. I'm shocked it works at all. If a country wants to provide people insurance against sickness, totally fine. But to push it off on employers seems crazy. Let's say you are a small business, you have 1 employee. If they get sick you are now stuck paying them for 6 weeks and you can't replace them? So your small business can basically go under if someone gets sick. I really disagree strongly with trying to push things onto companies. The government want to pay basic income? Great! The government want to provide health care? Great! This to me is the main advantage I like about basic income, is it really seems like we can get rid of all these suboptimal laws with horrible abuses and bad tradeoffs, including: - min wage - overtime - vacation requirements - healthcare requirements So businesses can just focus on what they do best and the government provides a safety net.
- ratww 4y ago
  Like another sibling said, it's not really that different in the US, since in the US you also use sick days for a while (not six weeks though) and progress to disability. In Germany it's just more structured. There's multiple special rules, like the employee must be working at the company for a while, it has different rules for companies with fewer employees, companies can't be in an emergency situation, there might be the possibility tax rebates. This is mostly handled by careful accounting. You need to provision future money for it rather than living in a reverse "paycheck to paycheck" situation. I never had a German company but I had a company in a country with similar arrangements and my accountant made me learn it all. It also has the side effect of having businesses to care about employee quality of life. Someone working 12 hours a day will probably burn out quickly.

ghaff 4y ago

Typically, in the US there's a progression from sick days (or just a shared pool of days) to short-term disability to long-term disability at companies that have those things.

hef19898 4y ago

6 weeks per diagnosis. If say you had six weeks of Covid and break your leg on the way out of the hospital and need another six weeks, your salary will be paid. And you keep your vacation days.

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mchusma 4y ago

This seems like an insane law. I'm shocked it works at all. If a country wants to provide people insurance against sickness, totally fine. But to push it off on employers seems crazy. Let's say you are a small business, you have 1 employee. If they get sick you are now stuck paying them for 6 weeks and you can't replace them? So your small business can basically go under if someone gets sick. I really disagree strongly with trying to push things onto companies. The government want to pay basic income? Great! The government want to provide health care? Great! This to me is the main advantage I like about basic income, is it really seems like we can get rid of all these suboptimal laws with horrible abuses and bad tradeoffs, including: - min wage - overtime - vacation requirements - healthcare requirements So businesses can just focus on what they do best and the government provides a safety net.

ratww 4y ago
Like another sibling said, it's not really that different in the US, since in the US you also use sick days for a while (not six weeks though) and progress to disability. In Germany it's just more structured. There's multiple special rules, like the employee must be working at the company for a while, it has different rules for companies with fewer employees, companies can't be in an emergency situation, there might be the possibility tax rebates. This is mostly handled by careful accounting. You need to provision future money for it rather than living in a reverse "paycheck to paycheck" situation. I never had a German company but I had a company in a country with similar arrangements and my accountant made me learn it all. It also has the side effect of having businesses to care about employee quality of life. Someone working 12 hours a day will probably burn out quickly.