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Is this a common number of vacation days in the US? In Germany the minimum _by law_ is 20 days on a 5 day week and I wouldn't even consider a position offering

Is this a common number of vacation days in the US? In Germany the minimum _by law_ is 20 days on a 5 day week and I wouldn't even consider a position offering only that.

hef19898 4y ago
Isn't the legal minimum in Germany 24 days, two days per month?
- JanSt 4y ago
  24 days for 6 day week, 20 days for 5 day week More or less everyone has a 5-day week. Most jobs offer 25-30 days/year + unlimited sick days
  - ratww 4y ago
    Yep. My job offers 35 days: 30 flexible days/year plus 5 days where they close shop.
    - hef19898 4y ago
      That's nice! Our mandatory closure over christmas goes out of the 30 day balance. Still good enough!
ghaff 4y ago
Assuming sick time is a separate pool (which is less common than it used to be and isn't mentioned), then yes in the US 15 days would be pretty standard for someone with experience but might be as low as 10 for someone without. It's almost certainly on the low side if that's a common vacation/sick time pool.
- cardanome 4y ago
  In Germany when you are sick you are sick, there is no limit. You will be paid and you can not be fired for it. An allotted amount of "sick days" doesn't really make sense anyway, not like you can choose to be sick next year. (Only exception is for long term sicknesses, if you are sick for more than 6 consecutive weeks, then the next week your health insurance will pay you 60% of your normal wage instead. Or if there is no hope of you ever being able to work, again insurance.) Oh and if you are sick on vacation you get your vacation days back as you were not really able to take advantage of them.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    Typically, in the US there's a progression from sick days (or just a shared pool of days) to short-term disability to long-term disability at companies that have those things.
  - hef19898 4y ago
    6 weeks per diagnosis. If say you had six weeks of Covid and break your leg on the way out of the hospital and need another six weeks, your salary will be paid. And you keep your vacation days.
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  - mchusma 4y ago
    This seems like an insane law. I'm shocked it works at all. If a country wants to provide people insurance against sickness, totally fine. But to push it off on employers seems crazy. Let's say you are a small business, you have 1 employee. If they get sick you are now stuck paying them for 6 weeks and you can't replace them? So your small business can basically go under if someone gets sick. I really disagree strongly with trying to push things onto companies. The government want to pay basic income? Great! The government want to provide health care? Great! This to me is the main advantage I like about basic income, is it really seems like we can get rid of all these suboptimal laws with horrible abuses and bad tradeoffs, including: - min wage - overtime - vacation requirements - healthcare requirements So businesses can just focus on what they do best and the government provides a safety net.
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MattGaiser 4y ago
I have friends with just 10 days in the USA.
chadash 4y ago
From a legal perspective I'm not sure, but I'd say 10 days is the minimum you'd see for a full time salaried position. But it's considered low for skilled professionals and would be a dealbreaker for many people. For skilled professionals (lawyers, engineers, etc.), 20 days is a more common number to see. This doesn't include sick days, which are usually counted separately.
eschneider 4y ago
It's common, but you can be assured that any company offering 10 days vacation is being run by shitty or criminally inexperienced people.
saxonww 4y ago
It varies. Some companies have 'unlimited' paid time off, others just federal holidays. I don't think there is a federal law governing paid time off. There is a law (Family and Medical Leave Act) guaranteeing up to 12 weeks of unpaid time off though. As someone else pointed out, some companies still offer vacation time and sick leave separately. None of the companies I've worked for still do, all have combined those into a single Paid Time Off pool.

Is this a common number of vacation days in the US? In Germany the minimum _by law_ is 20 days on a 5 day week and I wouldn't even consider a position offering only that.

hef19898 4y ago

Isn't the legal minimum in Germany 24 days, two days per month?

JanSt 4y ago
24 days for 6 day week, 20 days for 5 day week More or less everyone has a 5-day week. Most jobs offer 25-30 days/year + unlimited sick days
- ratww 4y ago
  Yep. My job offers 35 days: 30 flexible days/year plus 5 days where they close shop.
  - hef19898 4y ago
    That's nice! Our mandatory closure over christmas goes out of the 30 day balance. Still good enough!

ghaff 4y ago

Assuming sick time is a separate pool (which is less common than it used to be and isn't mentioned), then yes in the US 15 days would be pretty standard for someone with experience but might be as low as 10 for someone without. It's almost certainly on the low side if that's a common vacation/sick time pool.

cardanome 4y ago
In Germany when you are sick you are sick, there is no limit. You will be paid and you can not be fired for it. An allotted amount of "sick days" doesn't really make sense anyway, not like you can choose to be sick next year. (Only exception is for long term sicknesses, if you are sick for more than 6 consecutive weeks, then the next week your health insurance will pay you 60% of your normal wage instead. Or if there is no hope of you ever being able to work, again insurance.) Oh and if you are sick on vacation you get your vacation days back as you were not really able to take advantage of them.
- ghaff 4y ago
  Typically, in the US there's a progression from sick days (or just a shared pool of days) to short-term disability to long-term disability at companies that have those things.
- hef19898 4y ago
  6 weeks per diagnosis. If say you had six weeks of Covid and break your leg on the way out of the hospital and need another six weeks, your salary will be paid. And you keep your vacation days.
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- mchusma 4y ago
  This seems like an insane law. I'm shocked it works at all. If a country wants to provide people insurance against sickness, totally fine. But to push it off on employers seems crazy. Let's say you are a small business, you have 1 employee. If they get sick you are now stuck paying them for 6 weeks and you can't replace them? So your small business can basically go under if someone gets sick. I really disagree strongly with trying to push things onto companies. The government want to pay basic income? Great! The government want to provide health care? Great! This to me is the main advantage I like about basic income, is it really seems like we can get rid of all these suboptimal laws with horrible abuses and bad tradeoffs, including: - min wage - overtime - vacation requirements - healthcare requirements So businesses can just focus on what they do best and the government provides a safety net.

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MattGaiser 4y ago

I have friends with just 10 days in the USA.

chadash 4y ago

From a legal perspective I'm not sure, but I'd say 10 days is the minimum you'd see for a full time salaried position. But it's considered low for skilled professionals and would be a dealbreaker for many people. For skilled professionals (lawyers, engineers, etc.), 20 days is a more common number to see. This doesn't include sick days, which are usually counted separately.

eschneider 4y ago

It's common, but you can be assured that any company offering 10 days vacation is being run by shitty or criminally inexperienced people.

saxonww 4y ago

It varies. Some companies have 'unlimited' paid time off, others just federal holidays. I don't think there is a federal law governing paid time off. There is a law (Family and Medical Leave Act) guaranteeing up to 12 weeks of unpaid time off though. As someone else pointed out, some companies still offer vacation time and sick leave separately. None of the companies I've worked for still do, all have combined those into a single Paid Time Off pool.