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Depending where you live this might be illegal. In the U.K. you have an obligation not to record your neighbour’s property, and not to record conversations of m

Depending where you live this might be illegal. In the U.K. you have an obligation not to record your neighbour’s property, and not to record conversations of members of the public.

mdp2021 4y ago
A related article appeared earlier, and I submitted it, Dystopian doorbells: how the humble door buzzer turned into mass surveillance network https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32079896 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32079896 https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/property-news/video-doorbells-amazon-ring-google-nest-surveillance-privacy-b1008920.html https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/property-news/vi... A very interesting piece of info is that «microphones that can pick up audio from up to 25 feet away». The Evening Standard is a British newspaper, and the article tackles the legal matters, but does not mention audio recording. Maybe an overlook, or maybe concerned people should check the audio related regulations further. > Video doorbell owners must be careful not to place their cameras in areas where they might breach neighbours’ privacy. Any footage detected outside of your property is likely to breach UK General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) laws
- _benedict 4y ago
  The ICO[1] and case law[2] corroborate that audio recording outside your property with CCTV is generally prohibited. [1] https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/domestic-cctv-systems-guidance-for-people-using-cctv/ https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/domestic-cctv-systems-g... [2] https://www.icaew.com/library/subject-gateways/law/legal-alert/2017-03/case-law-neighbour-s-cctv-and-audio-equipment-breached-data-protection-law https://www.icaew.com/library/subject-gateways/law/legal-ale...
iso1631 4y ago
Yet every local facebook group is full of the curtain twitchers posting pictures of "person walking past, looks suspicious, keep save everyone x" in blatant disregard for the law, yet nothing happens
mdavis6890 4y ago
Yes that’s reserved for the government only.

Depending where you live this might be illegal. In the U.K. you have an obligation not to record your neighbour’s property, and not to record conversations of members of the public.

mdp2021 4y ago

A related article appeared earlier, and I submitted it, Dystopian doorbells: how the humble door buzzer turned into mass surveillance network https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32079896 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32079896 https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/property-news/video-doorbells-amazon-ring-google-nest-surveillance-privacy-b1008920.html https://www.standard.co.uk/homesandproperty/property-news/vi... A very interesting piece of info is that «microphones that can pick up audio from up to 25 feet away». The Evening Standard is a British newspaper, and the article tackles the legal matters, but does not mention audio recording. Maybe an overlook, or maybe concerned people should check the audio related regulations further. > Video doorbell owners must be careful not to place their cameras in areas where they might breach neighbours’ privacy. Any footage detected outside of your property is likely to breach UK General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) laws

_benedict 4y ago
The ICO[1] and case law[2] corroborate that audio recording outside your property with CCTV is generally prohibited. [1] https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/domestic-cctv-systems-guidance-for-people-using-cctv/ https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/domestic-cctv-systems-g... [2] https://www.icaew.com/library/subject-gateways/law/legal-alert/2017-03/case-law-neighbour-s-cctv-and-audio-equipment-breached-data-protection-law https://www.icaew.com/library/subject-gateways/law/legal-ale...

iso1631 4y ago

Yet every local facebook group is full of the curtain twitchers posting pictures of "person walking past, looks suspicious, keep save everyone x" in blatant disregard for the law, yet nothing happens

mdavis6890 4y ago

Yes that’s reserved for the government only.