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This is something i see a lot in conspiratorial thinking, you can't believe a government would be so incompetent, so somebody MUST be behind it and have caused

This is something i see a lot in conspiratorial thinking, you can't believe a government would be so incompetent, so somebody MUST be behind it and have caused this maliciously. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

guerrilla 4y ago
There's nothing "conspiratorial" about assuming fundamental principles of human behavior, even baked into neoclassical economics (which you might also subscribe to) and any realist political theory. Not only that but real conspiracies at this level happen almost constantly[1], John Bolton just admitted being involved in some yesterday on CNN[2]. Don't be dismissive and condescending, especially when it's quite possible you're wrong. 1. https://github.com/binka/essays/blob/master/us_atrocities.md https://github.com/binka/essays/blob/master/us_atrocities.md 2. https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1546955197045415936?s=20&t=EpfwIakiOp1HNeUt6QaZtQ https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/154695519704541593...
- sumitviii 4y ago
  There is no point in arguing against American government's actions on a forum almost completely populated by Americans.
- mannerheim 4y ago
  The organic movement that led to a nationwide chemical fertiliser ban is in fact part of a CIA operation to destabilise food-insecure nations.
  - guerrilla 4y ago
    I wouldn't know but it wouldn't be the weirdest thing they've done.
  - Melting_Harps 4y ago
    > The organic movement that led to a nationwide chemical fertiliser ban is in fact part of a CIA operation to destabilise food-insecure nations. This is absurd... I grant you that the CIA is in the business of destabilizing nations and use the World bank and IMF to that end, but what possible proof do you have that this is the case? It's clear to see that myopic policy (even I as a former Biodynamic farmer thought this transition was absurd) coupled with nepotism and a currency crisis due to COVID which directly impeded their ability to source fertilizer on the open market as the Russian invasion took place is what created their downfall. This all seeing boggy-G-man narrative is of CCP levels of hysteria!
    - mannerheim 4y ago
      > what possible proof do you have that this is the case? None, I made it up.

guerrilla 4y ago

There's nothing "conspiratorial" about assuming fundamental principles of human behavior, even baked into neoclassical economics (which you might also subscribe to) and any realist political theory. Not only that but real conspiracies at this level happen almost constantly[1], John Bolton just admitted being involved in some yesterday on CNN[2]. Don't be dismissive and condescending, especially when it's quite possible you're wrong. 1. https://github.com/binka/essays/blob/master/us_atrocities.md https://github.com/binka/essays/blob/master/us_atrocities.md 2. https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1546955197045415936?s=20&t=EpfwIakiOp1HNeUt6QaZtQ https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/154695519704541593...

sumitviii 4y ago
There is no point in arguing against American government's actions on a forum almost completely populated by Americans.
mannerheim 4y ago
The organic movement that led to a nationwide chemical fertiliser ban is in fact part of a CIA operation to destabilise food-insecure nations.
- guerrilla 4y ago
  I wouldn't know but it wouldn't be the weirdest thing they've done.
- Melting_Harps 4y ago
  > The organic movement that led to a nationwide chemical fertiliser ban is in fact part of a CIA operation to destabilise food-insecure nations. This is absurd... I grant you that the CIA is in the business of destabilizing nations and use the World bank and IMF to that end, but what possible proof do you have that this is the case? It's clear to see that myopic policy (even I as a former Biodynamic farmer thought this transition was absurd) coupled with nepotism and a currency crisis due to COVID which directly impeded their ability to source fertilizer on the open market as the Russian invasion took place is what created their downfall. This all seeing boggy-G-man narrative is of CCP levels of hysteria!
  - mannerheim 4y ago
    > what possible proof do you have that this is the case? None, I made it up.