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You can also run diesel cars and trucks on kerosene. The winter blend of diesel fuel in cold climates is a mixture of diesel and kerosene (which has a lower fre

by fy20 4y ago

You can also run diesel cars and trucks on kerosene. The winter blend of diesel fuel in cold climates is a mixture of diesel and kerosene (which has a lower freezing temperature). Straight kerosene would work, but it is less lubricating that diesel fuel, so you need to mix some engine oil in with it to avoid damaging the engine. And on a modern car you are probably going to destroy any emissions control system, as kerosene has much higher sulfur than diesel.

2143 4y ago
> You can also run diesel cars and trucks on kerosene. The winter blend of diesel fuel in cold climates is a mixture of diesel and kerosene (which has a lower freezing temperature). I know that Mercedes diesel sedans here in Asia has "NO ADDITIVES" written multiple times all around its inner fuel lid. I don't know for sure if Germany is considered to have cold climate, but if it is, I wonder if their diesel has kerosene and how that plays out with these engines. As I understand, Mercedes diesels are ubiquitous in some European countries (atleast as a taxi)?
- tyingq 4y ago
  Here's one winter diesel fuel I know is used in Germany (though this page is speaking to the Austrian market): https://www.omv.com/en/news/omv-maxxmotion-best-winter-diesel-fuel https://www.omv.com/en/news/omv-maxxmotion-best-winter-diese... It seems to include a "HVO bio component" (Hydrotreated Vegetable Oil).
- jabl 4y ago
  In terms of the length of the hydrocarbon chains, winter diesel has shorter chains than summer diesel (to reduce the gelling temperature), which moves it towards a kerosene-like composition. So in that way you could say it's a blend of (summer) diesel and kerosene. However, it's a product made to diesel specifications at a refinery, and has to satisfy all the other properties of diesel fuel standards like sulphur content, cetane number etc etc.
jaclaz 4y ago
Many years ago, one (among many others) of the reasons why Caterpillar earth moving equipment was ubiquitous was that their diesels could be tuned to burn almost any fuel. probably not cooking oil, but the diesel fuel available in some countries was more like what is called "bunker"[0] than anything else. On the other hand up to the '80's it was a common practice to add in cold climates some 5%-10% gasoline or kerosene to diesel fuel directly in the tank of trucks and building site machines. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_oil#General_classification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_oil#General_classificatio...

by fy20 4y ago

2143 4y ago

> You can also run diesel cars and trucks on kerosene. The winter blend of diesel fuel in cold climates is a mixture of diesel and kerosene (which has a lower freezing temperature). I know that Mercedes diesel sedans here in Asia has "NO ADDITIVES" written multiple times all around its inner fuel lid. I don't know for sure if Germany is considered to have cold climate, but if it is, I wonder if their diesel has kerosene and how that plays out with these engines. As I understand, Mercedes diesels are ubiquitous in some European countries (atleast as a taxi)?

tyingq 4y ago
Here's one winter diesel fuel I know is used in Germany (though this page is speaking to the Austrian market): https://www.omv.com/en/news/omv-maxxmotion-best-winter-diesel-fuel https://www.omv.com/en/news/omv-maxxmotion-best-winter-diese... It seems to include a "HVO bio component" (Hydrotreated Vegetable Oil).
jabl 4y ago
In terms of the length of the hydrocarbon chains, winter diesel has shorter chains than summer diesel (to reduce the gelling temperature), which moves it towards a kerosene-like composition. So in that way you could say it's a blend of (summer) diesel and kerosene. However, it's a product made to diesel specifications at a refinery, and has to satisfy all the other properties of diesel fuel standards like sulphur content, cetane number etc etc.

jaclaz 4y ago

Many years ago, one (among many others) of the reasons why Caterpillar earth moving equipment was ubiquitous was that their diesels could be tuned to burn almost any fuel. probably not cooking oil, but the diesel fuel available in some countries was more like what is called "bunker"[0] than anything else. On the other hand up to the '80's it was a common practice to add in cold climates some 5%-10% gasoline or kerosene to diesel fuel directly in the tank of trucks and building site machines. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_oil#General_classification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_oil#General_classificatio...