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Or we can just install speed bumps/dots on every hilly street and let young people figure out a different way to being needlessly reckless. You're saying "good

Or we can just install speed bumps/dots on every hilly street and let young people figure out a different way to being needlessly reckless. You're saying "good for em I say" to people who give themselves traumatic brain injuries and kill random innocent people: https://sfist.com/2020/07/20/city-installs-raised-dots-on-dolores-street-following-hill-bomb-death/ https://sfist.com/2020/07/20/city-installs-raised-dots-on-do... https://sfist.com/2019/07/20/well-known-skateboarder-tomoko-oikawa-suffers-brain-injury-during-dolores/ https://sfist.com/2019/07/20/well-known-skateboarder-tomoko-... If they have some private hill they want to go kill themselves on, then go for it. But we shouldn't be shutting down public infrastructure for this. It would be like saying we should shut down I-95 so douchebags can drag race down it. Horrible idea all around. Having the state encourage this behavior is a great way to get more people TBIs.

hoseja 4y ago
I REALLY don't understand appeals to safety when you then fail to mention the astounding death-toll of car transportation.
- googlryas 4y ago
  Perhaps that's because cars have a far higher utility than throwing yourself down a hill, or watching people throw themselves down a hill.
throwaway_4ever 4y ago
Your two examples have nothing to do with “kill random innocent people.” Both of them were actively doing the hill-bomb. No bystander has ever been killed in this event.
burnished 4y ago
So.. public streets aren't for public use? You need to own your own private property to make any use however temporary? Safety measures are good but this is one of the purposes of public infrastructure; to be used by the public.
- googlryas 4y ago
  A random group shutting down a roadway for their own purposes does not make it "used by the public". Do you think they let random cars drive down the streets they're bombing on? No, they decide that they enforce their own laws.
Fatnino 4y ago
Lots of places in Europe shut down their public roads for a day so some people can race in them. One famous example: Monaco.

hoseja 4y ago

I REALLY don't understand appeals to safety when you then fail to mention the astounding death-toll of car transportation.

googlryas 4y ago
Perhaps that's because cars have a far higher utility than throwing yourself down a hill, or watching people throw themselves down a hill.

throwaway_4ever 4y ago

Your two examples have nothing to do with “kill random innocent people.” Both of them were actively doing the hill-bomb. No bystander has ever been killed in this event.

burnished 4y ago

So.. public streets aren't for public use? You need to own your own private property to make any use however temporary? Safety measures are good but this is one of the purposes of public infrastructure; to be used by the public.

googlryas 4y ago
A random group shutting down a roadway for their own purposes does not make it "used by the public". Do you think they let random cars drive down the streets they're bombing on? No, they decide that they enforce their own laws.

Fatnino 4y ago

Lots of places in Europe shut down their public roads for a day so some people can race in them. One famous example: Monaco.