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I don't think churn is particularly high as a percentage of total workers. The company really is growing that fast. There have been over ten-thousand positions

I don't think churn is particularly high as a percentage of total workers. The company really is growing that fast. There have been over ten-thousand positions open via careers.google.com in the last several months (although I expect that to shrink in the coming days). And 10K isn't that unusual of a quarterly number. No inside info here, just noting that that kind of hiring is par for the course.

metadat 4y ago
I know for a fact GCP is a shit show, so I'm sure they've been manscaling it.
- altdataseller 4y ago
  Every engineer says that about their own products. My Amazon buddies all say AWS is a huge shitshow and my Microsoft buddies say Azure is huge mess. Technology is chaotic by nature
  - metadat 4y ago
    It isn't my own product :) Thomas Kurian is a special kind of chaos. But yeah, no clouds run themselves. Only GCP is a spectacular kind of mismanaged, since 2018 or so. Anyhow, who cares! :D cheers @altdataseller
    - johndfsgdgdfg 4y ago
      You have made a lot of bold statements. Do you have anything substantial to back up your statements?
      - metadat 4y ago
        How about personal experience working with TK and a bunch of friends working at Google on Cloud? You can look up the severe production outages GCP has suffered over the past years, if you care. All big organizations are dysfunctional in their own way. If you know better, I'm all ears! Not trying to discount the hard work of all those fantastic Google engineers. It's just, prod issues are prod issues, regardless of good intentions. Toxic TK, otoh, he's selfish, self-aggrandizing, out of touch, and not very nice or cool at all. Everything he touches bears his mark.
        smugma 4y ago
        It almost sounds like he used to be an Oracle exec.
        sofixa 4y ago
        If given a choice I'd take GCP's production outages over Azure's security vulnerabilities that show a complete and total lack of any care for anything resembling security in at least a few of their products.
      - astrange 4y ago
        I saw him posting certified enterprise nonsense the other day and it didn’t make me feel very good about it. https://twitter.com/thomasortk/status/1542601634106195968 https://twitter.com/thomasortk/status/1542601634106195968 (for some reason I’m still following one of my college professors who’s since become a director at GCP somehow)

metadat 4y ago

I know for a fact GCP is a shit show, so I'm sure they've been manscaling it.

altdataseller 4y ago
Every engineer says that about their own products. My Amazon buddies all say AWS is a huge shitshow and my Microsoft buddies say Azure is huge mess. Technology is chaotic by nature
- metadat 4y ago
  It isn't my own product :) Thomas Kurian is a special kind of chaos. But yeah, no clouds run themselves. Only GCP is a spectacular kind of mismanaged, since 2018 or so. Anyhow, who cares! :D cheers @altdataseller
  - johndfsgdgdfg 4y ago
    You have made a lot of bold statements. Do you have anything substantial to back up your statements?
    - metadat 4y ago
      How about personal experience working with TK and a bunch of friends working at Google on Cloud? You can look up the severe production outages GCP has suffered over the past years, if you care. All big organizations are dysfunctional in their own way. If you know better, I'm all ears! Not trying to discount the hard work of all those fantastic Google engineers. It's just, prod issues are prod issues, regardless of good intentions. Toxic TK, otoh, he's selfish, self-aggrandizing, out of touch, and not very nice or cool at all. Everything he touches bears his mark.
      - smugma 4y ago
        It almost sounds like he used to be an Oracle exec.
      - sofixa 4y ago
        If given a choice I'd take GCP's production outages over Azure's security vulnerabilities that show a complete and total lack of any care for anything resembling security in at least a few of their products.
    - astrange 4y ago
      I saw him posting certified enterprise nonsense the other day and it didn’t make me feel very good about it. https://twitter.com/thomasortk/status/1542601634106195968 https://twitter.com/thomasortk/status/1542601634106195968 (for some reason I’m still following one of my college professors who’s since become a director at GCP somehow)