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was looking at your link and found this - https://bibliogram.art/p/Cfsna30F2h- https://bibliogram.art/p/Cfsna30F2h- WTF is going on over there ?! So glad I'm s

by dxbydt 4y ago

was looking at your link and found this - https://bibliogram.art/p/Cfsna30F2h- https://bibliogram.art/p/Cfsna30F2h- WTF is going on over there ?! So glad I'm safe in the boring midwest.

jeffbee 4y ago
Joking, I assume? These make the news here because they are news. They wouldn't make the news in Indiana, the world capital of freeway shootings.
- vecinu 4y ago
  I doubt the OP is joking. I left the Bay exactly for reasons like this, I don't want to become collateral damage due to factors outside of my control that are well documented and happening way too often for my liking. Even a few years later, it still surprises me that people in the Bay normalize this type of activity but I guess Stockholm syndrome is strong in the average person.
  - Melting_Harps 4y ago
    > Even a few years later, it still surprises me that people in the Bay normalize this type of activity but I guess Stockholm syndrome is strong in the average person. California born and raised: California was never safe since it's inception as it was always the most renown frontier in the US; it's just where fortunes could be made in a person's lifetime. If you are honest with yourself you also came for the money/title/status and told yourself that because you live in a certain zip code with billionaires it also somehow confers some sort of safety on to you... I saw this play out during COVID and so many who thought that they were somehow residually part of the elite got a rude wakeup call when all the riots and crime shot up. The smart ones took their real estate exit money and left for good. If I'm honest it's like a form of Stockholm syndrome, but it's more like a trophy wife staying in a toxic relationship because she'd have to get used to real life once she ventured outside of a very persuasive bubble existence--at least in the bubble she can take all the xanax and cosmo chasers to normalize the craziness around them. Their is a reason why Cyberpunk 2077 was based in California, the lore just lends itself so well to it and it's why I think it resonated so well for those from there. I also left, and now live on the other side of the World, and I really have no desire of going back until <50% of you people leave so I can finally go back home.
    - vecinu 4y ago
      > "I really have no desire of going back until <50% of you people leave" There are quite a lot of personal attacks and assumptions in your post so I'm just going to ignore them. I came from a very safe metro area in Canada and had no notion of elitism as you so randomly assumed about me. When I moved, Canada was a lot more balanced and there was not a large income/wealth gap as it currently exists in the US. I had no rose colored glasses or impression that because I was "sharing a zip code with billionaires" I would be safe. I took every day as it came and discovered that just existing and living near downtown felt unsafe for me and my family. The most powerful force around discussions of safety and lifestyle is comparison. When you see multiple places with your own eyes and body, it's a lot easier to compare and you get a sense of what feels right or wrong, for you. Your entire response is very strange, it might be helpful to reflect where your perceptions, biases and opinions around wealth come from because you threw a small net and ended up empty handed.
dredmorbius 4y ago
Not specific to Oakland, FWIW: "Skyrocketing Expressway Shootings a Uniquely Chicago Problem, Investigators Say" https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/skyrocketing-expressway-shootings-a-uniquely-chicago-problem-investigators-say/2367893/ https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/skyrocketing-expre... "1 killed in expressway shooting in NW Indiana - FOX 32 Chicago" https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/1-killed-in-expressway-shooting-in-nw-indiana https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/1-killed-in-expressway-sho... You can find examples for Minnesota (the well-mannered state), Wisconsin, Missouri, and elsewhere. The "but it's safe here" narrative probably isn't valid. I don't have comparative statistics, but keep in mind that California's population is ~40 million compared to 12.5 m for Illinois, and less for surrounding states.
Pakdef 4y ago
I had a road rage woman in Florida point a gun at me on the highway... but she didn't shoot

by dxbydt 4y ago

was looking at your link and found this - https://bibliogram.art/p/Cfsna30F2h- https://bibliogram.art/p/Cfsna30F2h- WTF is going on over there ?! So glad I'm safe in the boring midwest.

jeffbee 4y ago

Joking, I assume? These make the news here because they are news. They wouldn't make the news in Indiana, the world capital of freeway shootings.

vecinu 4y ago
I doubt the OP is joking. I left the Bay exactly for reasons like this, I don't want to become collateral damage due to factors outside of my control that are well documented and happening way too often for my liking. Even a few years later, it still surprises me that people in the Bay normalize this type of activity but I guess Stockholm syndrome is strong in the average person.
- Melting_Harps 4y ago
  > Even a few years later, it still surprises me that people in the Bay normalize this type of activity but I guess Stockholm syndrome is strong in the average person. California born and raised: California was never safe since it's inception as it was always the most renown frontier in the US; it's just where fortunes could be made in a person's lifetime. If you are honest with yourself you also came for the money/title/status and told yourself that because you live in a certain zip code with billionaires it also somehow confers some sort of safety on to you... I saw this play out during COVID and so many who thought that they were somehow residually part of the elite got a rude wakeup call when all the riots and crime shot up. The smart ones took their real estate exit money and left for good. If I'm honest it's like a form of Stockholm syndrome, but it's more like a trophy wife staying in a toxic relationship because she'd have to get used to real life once she ventured outside of a very persuasive bubble existence--at least in the bubble she can take all the xanax and cosmo chasers to normalize the craziness around them. Their is a reason why Cyberpunk 2077 was based in California, the lore just lends itself so well to it and it's why I think it resonated so well for those from there. I also left, and now live on the other side of the World, and I really have no desire of going back until <50% of you people leave so I can finally go back home.
  - vecinu 4y ago
    > "I really have no desire of going back until <50% of you people leave" There are quite a lot of personal attacks and assumptions in your post so I'm just going to ignore them. I came from a very safe metro area in Canada and had no notion of elitism as you so randomly assumed about me. When I moved, Canada was a lot more balanced and there was not a large income/wealth gap as it currently exists in the US. I had no rose colored glasses or impression that because I was "sharing a zip code with billionaires" I would be safe. I took every day as it came and discovered that just existing and living near downtown felt unsafe for me and my family. The most powerful force around discussions of safety and lifestyle is comparison. When you see multiple places with your own eyes and body, it's a lot easier to compare and you get a sense of what feels right or wrong, for you. Your entire response is very strange, it might be helpful to reflect where your perceptions, biases and opinions around wealth come from because you threw a small net and ended up empty handed.

dredmorbius 4y ago

Not specific to Oakland, FWIW: "Skyrocketing Expressway Shootings a Uniquely Chicago Problem, Investigators Say" https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/skyrocketing-expressway-shootings-a-uniquely-chicago-problem-investigators-say/2367893/ https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/skyrocketing-expre... "1 killed in expressway shooting in NW Indiana - FOX 32 Chicago" https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/1-killed-in-expressway-shooting-in-nw-indiana https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/1-killed-in-expressway-sho... You can find examples for Minnesota (the well-mannered state), Wisconsin, Missouri, and elsewhere. The "but it's safe here" narrative probably isn't valid. I don't have comparative statistics, but keep in mind that California's population is ~40 million compared to 12.5 m for Illinois, and less for surrounding states.

Pakdef 4y ago

I had a road rage woman in Florida point a gun at me on the highway... but she didn't shoot