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clickbait title, in reality all they have asked is for the airlines to reduce the passengers by about 4000

tpmx 4y ago
HN needs to work on this, IMO. It works way too well here. Should I flag this post? Feels a bit over the top. At the same time I can't downvote it. shrug
ziddoap 4y ago
How is every single title considered clickbait? I'm at the point I don't even know what clickbait is anymore. Every HN thread I open, someone is saying the title is clickbait, even when the title is literally what is happening. To me, clickbait is along the lines of "10 ways to lose 100lbs in 1 hour!" and it's an article about throwing out two 50lb weights. Or otherwise where the title is clearly not representative of the article itself. But here we have... >Effectively immediately, Heathrow has requested: -the closure for sale of all flights departing from the airport until 11th September - a reduction in the current passenger cap from 101,500 to 100,000 That seems to match the title exactly? Which part is clickbait? Or what has changed in the definition of clickbait that I'm too out of touch to have learned?
- mccorrinall 4y ago
  While it might not be clickbait it is definitely sensationalizing. That usually leaves a bitter taste in the mouth of the reader.
  - ziddoap 4y ago
    Which part of the title is sensationalized? Because the title is almost a word for word copy of the actual announcement, straight from the CEOs mouth.
    - lotsofpulp 4y ago
      One form of clickbait is to take mundane processes that the general public is not aware of, and to publicize them as if they are news. Is this unprecedented at Heathrow, or normal course of action? Will the average Heathrow traveler or prospective traveler a face any consequence anything from this news? Some of the items do seem like they would impact travelers and potential travelers, so I would not classify it as clickbait yet. Unless I found out this was every summer. But if this article means that people should avoid Heathrow because the experience will be worse than prior years, then I would say this is relevant news to share with the public.
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    - dang 4y ago
      Capitalized "ANY" is certainly a clickbait trick.
  - structural 4y ago
    It's certainly not clickbait. If I wanted to fly to London for a meeting in 6 weeks and then fly home, I can no longer do so via Heathrow. It's not like I can just get an earlier or later flight, travel a day earlier, whatever. It's just not an option. That's a rather big deal.
- throwaway67743 4y ago
  The title says ANY tickets, which won't actually the case since the aim is a reduction in passengers and many flights won't be fully booked anyway but the "clickbait" bit is the dramatic title, weak definition of perhaps, but its still excessive example of level reporting: https://news.sky.com/story/new-summer-holiday-threat-as-heathrow-imposes-passenger-cap-until-september-12650517 https://news.sky.com/story/new-summer-holiday-threat-as-heat...
  - cm2187 4y ago
    The letter says "so we are asking our airline partners to stop selling summer tickets to limit the impact on passengers." I do read this as selling any ticket, which is the title of the article.
    - throwaway67743 4y ago
      Asks, not tells them to stop (and most airlines are still selling tickets, likely because many people that would be traveling now won't be so there will be spare capacity) - the problem is the article a) is a bit dramatic and misleading with the title, and b) isn't of particularly high quality anyway
      - cm2187 4y ago
        Again the article covers that. The airport cannot enforce the rule but if the airlines do not play ball (and I suspect the airport has visibility on ticket sales), it can cancel flights wholesale.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    Your article says the same thing as the one you call clickbait. They are already over the target cap, and they are asking for no additional ticket sales as a means of preventing going further over the cap, and indicating that if the numbers sold get worse, they will be forced to impose flight cancellations and may prohibit rebookings for passengers on any cancelled flights since such rebookings would defeat the purpose of reducing passengers.
- idunno246 4y ago
  to me the title sounds like its cancel all flights, like its closing. but that doesnt really make sense, it's just phrased badly. its borderline clickbait, it sounds really bad(worse than it is), and the only way to understand what the title means is read the article. 'any more seats' - i think a 'more' in there would make the title ok
  - fknorangesite 4y ago
    > to me the title sounds like its cancel all flights, like its closing I am genuinely perplexed as to how someone could get that from this title.
cm2187 4y ago
But no more ticket sale is a big deal I think. Particularly business travelers.
dragonwriter 4y ago
No, they've asked them to stop selling tickets for the time period in question because they are already 1500 passengers/day over the cap, and are expected to be 4000 over if sales continue. They are also threatening to cancel flights (and not allowing rebookings of those whose flights are cancelled) if necessary to maintain the cap.

tpmx 4y ago

HN needs to work on this, IMO. It works way too well here. Should I flag this post? Feels a bit over the top. At the same time I can't downvote it. shrug

ziddoap 4y ago

How is every single title considered clickbait? I'm at the point I don't even know what clickbait is anymore. Every HN thread I open, someone is saying the title is clickbait, even when the title is literally what is happening. To me, clickbait is along the lines of "10 ways to lose 100lbs in 1 hour!" and it's an article about throwing out two 50lb weights. Or otherwise where the title is clearly not representative of the article itself. But here we have... >Effectively immediately, Heathrow has requested: -the closure for sale of all flights departing from the airport until 11th September - a reduction in the current passenger cap from 101,500 to 100,000 That seems to match the title exactly? Which part is clickbait? Or what has changed in the definition of clickbait that I'm too out of touch to have learned?

mccorrinall 4y ago
While it might not be clickbait it is definitely sensationalizing. That usually leaves a bitter taste in the mouth of the reader.
- ziddoap 4y ago
  Which part of the title is sensationalized? Because the title is almost a word for word copy of the actual announcement, straight from the CEOs mouth.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    One form of clickbait is to take mundane processes that the general public is not aware of, and to publicize them as if they are news. Is this unprecedented at Heathrow, or normal course of action? Will the average Heathrow traveler or prospective traveler a face any consequence anything from this news? Some of the items do seem like they would impact travelers and potential travelers, so I would not classify it as clickbait yet. Unless I found out this was every summer. But if this article means that people should avoid Heathrow because the experience will be worse than prior years, then I would say this is relevant news to share with the public.
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  - dang 4y ago
    Capitalized "ANY" is certainly a clickbait trick.
- structural 4y ago
  It's certainly not clickbait. If I wanted to fly to London for a meeting in 6 weeks and then fly home, I can no longer do so via Heathrow. It's not like I can just get an earlier or later flight, travel a day earlier, whatever. It's just not an option. That's a rather big deal.
throwaway67743 4y ago
The title says ANY tickets, which won't actually the case since the aim is a reduction in passengers and many flights won't be fully booked anyway but the "clickbait" bit is the dramatic title, weak definition of perhaps, but its still excessive example of level reporting: https://news.sky.com/story/new-summer-holiday-threat-as-heathrow-imposes-passenger-cap-until-september-12650517 https://news.sky.com/story/new-summer-holiday-threat-as-heat...
- cm2187 4y ago
  The letter says "so we are asking our airline partners to stop selling summer tickets to limit the impact on passengers." I do read this as selling any ticket, which is the title of the article.
  - throwaway67743 4y ago
    Asks, not tells them to stop (and most airlines are still selling tickets, likely because many people that would be traveling now won't be so there will be spare capacity) - the problem is the article a) is a bit dramatic and misleading with the title, and b) isn't of particularly high quality anyway
    - cm2187 4y ago
      Again the article covers that. The airport cannot enforce the rule but if the airlines do not play ball (and I suspect the airport has visibility on ticket sales), it can cancel flights wholesale.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  Your article says the same thing as the one you call clickbait. They are already over the target cap, and they are asking for no additional ticket sales as a means of preventing going further over the cap, and indicating that if the numbers sold get worse, they will be forced to impose flight cancellations and may prohibit rebookings for passengers on any cancelled flights since such rebookings would defeat the purpose of reducing passengers.
idunno246 4y ago
to me the title sounds like its cancel all flights, like its closing. but that doesnt really make sense, it's just phrased badly. its borderline clickbait, it sounds really bad(worse than it is), and the only way to understand what the title means is read the article. 'any more seats' - i think a 'more' in there would make the title ok
- fknorangesite 4y ago
  > to me the title sounds like its cancel all flights, like its closing I am genuinely perplexed as to how someone could get that from this title.

cm2187 4y ago

But no more ticket sale is a big deal I think. Particularly business travelers.

dragonwriter 4y ago

No, they've asked them to stop selling tickets for the time period in question because they are already 1500 passengers/day over the cap, and are expected to be 4000 over if sales continue. They are also threatening to cancel flights (and not allowing rebookings of those whose flights are cancelled) if necessary to maintain the cap.