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As an amateur, I don't care too much, since I only use obsolete stuff. Black & white film are trendy, though expensive and there is not much that can break on

As an amateur, I don't care too much, since I only use obsolete stuff. Black & white film are trendy, though expensive and there is not much that can break on my F3 camera. Out of curiosity, I went to the Leica store recently, to test out the Q2 monochrome (and the M11). It has a great lens, a great great 47mpx sensor, a even greater tactile experience and a sh*tty EVF. I can't fathom why non pros would by such a poor UX for $6000€ or so. On the other hand, the comparable M setup with its great but rather limiting UX would be over 10k. I don't know about pros, but for amateurs, price and electronic UX feel like good reason to just stay retro and enjoy..

aaronbrethorst 4y ago
Same reason someone would buy that ridiculous Ferrari watch that showed up the other day, imho. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32046036 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32046036 I used to have a Leica M6. It was a lovely camera, but I actually really prefer to shoot with my Nikon FE2 to the Leica, and so I sold the M6. Hope it ended up in the hands of someone who enjoys it.
- jeromenerf 4y ago
  Someone said it corrupts the rich enjoying it and the poor envying it. I guess a little just corrupt a little. I also prefer looking through the lens ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
yladiz 4y ago
I'm curious what your definition of UX is in this case. I have a Q2 and I find that while it's a little quirky and they made some specific strange decisions in development to be a very powerful and pleasant to use camera and I enjoy using it over my previous DSLR because of its low weight, beautiful lens (which in reality is what you're paying 2/3 of the money for anyway) and the photos it can produce, and specifically on the point of the EVF, it's really one of the better ones on the market from my experience. The biggest critique I have for the camera is the abysmal battery life, and the fact that they changed to a proprietary (and very thick) battery compared to the Q.
- jeromenerf 4y ago
  I cannot say I am surprised by the great quality of the build and the resulting images, it's Leica. They are expensive but they surely deliver. "Not surprised", but still, it's really good. The EVF though was laggy, had weird focus picking/assist in manual mode, weird blueish white balance, the artificial depth of field preview ... I am sure it's featureful and better than the competition but I did not enjoy the experience, which is usually the brand trademark, rangefinder and so on. I found the Fuji X100 hybrid EVF/OVF approach more pleasing. Me not understanding the appeal doesn't mean others can't though. I wish you all the best with this camera.

aaronbrethorst 4y ago

Same reason someone would buy that ridiculous Ferrari watch that showed up the other day, imho. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32046036 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32046036 I used to have a Leica M6. It was a lovely camera, but I actually really prefer to shoot with my Nikon FE2 to the Leica, and so I sold the M6. Hope it ended up in the hands of someone who enjoys it.

jeromenerf 4y ago
Someone said it corrupts the rich enjoying it and the poor envying it. I guess a little just corrupt a little. I also prefer looking through the lens ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yladiz 4y ago

I'm curious what your definition of UX is in this case. I have a Q2 and I find that while it's a little quirky and they made some specific strange decisions in development to be a very powerful and pleasant to use camera and I enjoy using it over my previous DSLR because of its low weight, beautiful lens (which in reality is what you're paying 2/3 of the money for anyway) and the photos it can produce, and specifically on the point of the EVF, it's really one of the better ones on the market from my experience. The biggest critique I have for the camera is the abysmal battery life, and the fact that they changed to a proprietary (and very thick) battery compared to the Q.

jeromenerf 4y ago
I cannot say I am surprised by the great quality of the build and the resulting images, it's Leica. They are expensive but they surely deliver. "Not surprised", but still, it's really good. The EVF though was laggy, had weird focus picking/assist in manual mode, weird blueish white balance, the artificial depth of field preview ... I am sure it's featureful and better than the competition but I did not enjoy the experience, which is usually the brand trademark, rangefinder and so on. I found the Fuji X100 hybrid EVF/OVF approach more pleasing. Me not understanding the appeal doesn't mean others can't though. I wish you all the best with this camera.