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They didn't nuke anything, they just cut off access to remotely hosted resources.

dspillett 4y ago
From the PoV of a cop with a warrant, that is effectively the same thing. The evidence they have a warrant to collect is deliberately made inaccessible to anyone at that location.
- dahfizz 4y ago
  > From the PoV of a cop with a warrant Did this ever happen? The article makes no mention of warrants or subpoenas for live driver location data. Even if such a warrant was issued, it would probably not be satisfied via the Uber app UI.
  - dspillett 4y ago
    > Did this ever happen? I've not seen it reported that it ever happened. The point is that they prepared for it and intended to take that action if the situation occurred. That they planned and implemented a method to obscure evidence is a strong indicator that they knew some of what they were doing was not legal (leaving aside discussion of where wrong & illegal do/don't overlap, in their opinion or ours or anyone else's). > it would probably not be satisfied via the Uber app UI. This part isn't about the app. It is about making data inaccessible at an office should the authorities enter that office - equivalent to quickly ramming documents through the shredder when you see an auditor approaching the building.
    - dahfizz 4y ago
      Have you read the article? Greyball is a "fake version" of the Uber app. The Uber app displays a live map of driver locations. If the app thinks you're a cop, it will display fake locations. > This part isn't about the app. It is about making data inaccessible at an office should the authorities enter that office - equivalent to quickly ramming documents through the shredder when you see an auditor approaching the building. It's literally nothing to do with that.
      - dspillett 4y ago
        It would appear I got myself confused between the collection dirty tricks that Uber have been shown to have perpetrated. “they just cut off access to remotely hosted resources” from the top of this thread covers cutting off fixed locations as well as mobile app instances.

From the PoV of a cop with a warrant, that is effectively the same thing. The evidence they have a warrant to collect is deliberately made inaccessible to anyone at that location.

dahfizz 4y ago
> From the PoV of a cop with a warrant Did this ever happen? The article makes no mention of warrants or subpoenas for live driver location data. Even if such a warrant was issued, it would probably not be satisfied via the Uber app UI.
- dspillett 4y ago
  > Did this ever happen? I've not seen it reported that it ever happened. The point is that they prepared for it and intended to take that action if the situation occurred. That they planned and implemented a method to obscure evidence is a strong indicator that they knew some of what they were doing was not legal (leaving aside discussion of where wrong & illegal do/don't overlap, in their opinion or ours or anyone else's). > it would probably not be satisfied via the Uber app UI. This part isn't about the app. It is about making data inaccessible at an office should the authorities enter that office - equivalent to quickly ramming documents through the shredder when you see an auditor approaching the building.
  - dahfizz 4y ago
    Have you read the article? Greyball is a "fake version" of the Uber app. The Uber app displays a live map of driver locations. If the app thinks you're a cop, it will display fake locations. > This part isn't about the app. It is about making data inaccessible at an office should the authorities enter that office - equivalent to quickly ramming documents through the shredder when you see an auditor approaching the building. It's literally nothing to do with that.
    - dspillett 4y ago
      It would appear I got myself confused between the collection dirty tricks that Uber have been shown to have perpetrated. “they just cut off access to remotely hosted resources” from the top of this thread covers cutting off fixed locations as well as mobile app instances.