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> System 76 just rebrands some shitty chinese laptops and you notice. This is manifestly not the case. Perhaps in the very early days but not in the last sever
by trelane 4y ago
> System 76 just rebrands some shitty chinese laptops and you notice.
This is manifestly not the case. Perhaps in the very early days but not in the last several years.
- mardifoufs 4y agoI thought they are still using rebranded Clevo laptops in their current product line? Not that it's inherently a bad thing, just curious to know.
- trelane 4y agoThey work with Clevo to develop them[3], and make the hardware work with Linux[0], preferably in firmware (so you don't generally need the System76 driver). They also set them up with CoreBoot and open source EC[1]. Although Clevo can sell their own version of the hardware, it is not really the same[2] [0] Based on my experience. I ordered a laptop a long time ago and they explained they were working with Clevo to get the firmware fixed so that suspending worked reliably. This is before the OpenBoot + EC stuff came about. [1] https://support.system76.com/articles/open-firmware-systems/ https://support.system76.com/articles/open-firmware-systems/ [2] https://twitter.com/jeremy_soller/status/1322954964549824512 https://twitter.com/jeremy_soller/status/1322954964549824512 [3] Clevo is System76's ODM. Most OEMs (e.g. Dell, HP) work with ODMs to put together the final product the OEM then offers. I posted the public Dell ODM list in another thread. System76 wanted to bring laptops in-house; I don't know the status on that. But System76 and Clevo work together to offer the final laptop based in a Clevo base[4]. And now (like, in the last 4 years) System76 started also adding open source firmware in some places. [4] https://twitter.com/jeremy_soller/status/1322960532303872000 https://twitter.com/jeremy_soller/status/1322960532303872000