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> Only narcissists and not very aware people are able to "enjoy the world as it is, in all its messiness." I do not believe myself to be a narcissist and I thi

> Only narcissists and not very aware people are able to "enjoy the world as it is, in all its messiness." I do not believe myself to be a narcissist and I think I am at least somewhat aware of the world and it’s problems. Yet, despite this, I do “ enjoy the world as it is, in all its messiness”. I think what is preventing you from doing the same is ideology and close mindedness. From the comment, you come across like a fundamentalist christian refusing to enjoy life because “the world is sinful”. Enjoy life man. Since we’re on the article, take a page from the Buddhist philosophy and let go, for a moment at least :)

blitz_skull 4y ago
It’s funny you say this, because it’s precisely because of my fundamentalist Christian worldview that allows me to love and accept the world as it is. Sounds like you’ve had some bad run-ins with Christian fundamentalists. Sure the world is broken, but most Christians realize the world is inherently beautiful (not to be confused with ‘good’). If the God of the universe died to save it, there’s got to be fundamental value there. Therefore if someone thinks the world is ugly and can’t enjoy it, that’s an internal thing they gotta fix, not an immutable, self-evident truth about the world… again it’s precisely because of the Bible that I believe these things.
- throwawayacc2 4y ago
  What you describing doesn’t sound fundamentalist to me. I was referring more to the sort of people who, for example, see homosexuals having gay pride and start worrying it’s the end times and they must cleanse the world through adherence to their religion or something like that. Let me re-write the comment I was responding as a fundamentalist would write it. —- Only sinners and heathens are able to "enjoy the world as it is, in all its messiness." Because that's what it takes to ignore abusive levels of homosexuality and systemic threats to the continued survival of the church. The point is not about what happened in the past, it's about what is still happening now - and how the narratives from the past continue to be used to justify it. Ignoring this is neither compassionate nor realistic - although it is heretical, pretty much by definition. —- I am 100% percent convinced that there are fundamentalist christians or islamists or whatever who would read that re-written comment as go “oh yeah, that makes complete sense”.

blitz_skull 4y ago

It’s funny you say this, because it’s precisely because of my fundamentalist Christian worldview that allows me to love and accept the world as it is. Sounds like you’ve had some bad run-ins with Christian fundamentalists. Sure the world is broken, but most Christians realize the world is inherently beautiful (not to be confused with ‘good’). If the God of the universe died to save it, there’s got to be fundamental value there. Therefore if someone thinks the world is ugly and can’t enjoy it, that’s an internal thing they gotta fix, not an immutable, self-evident truth about the world… again it’s precisely because of the Bible that I believe these things.

throwawayacc2 4y ago
What you describing doesn’t sound fundamentalist to me. I was referring more to the sort of people who, for example, see homosexuals having gay pride and start worrying it’s the end times and they must cleanse the world through adherence to their religion or something like that. Let me re-write the comment I was responding as a fundamentalist would write it. —- Only sinners and heathens are able to "enjoy the world as it is, in all its messiness." Because that's what it takes to ignore abusive levels of homosexuality and systemic threats to the continued survival of the church. The point is not about what happened in the past, it's about what is still happening now - and how the narratives from the past continue to be used to justify it. Ignoring this is neither compassionate nor realistic - although it is heretical, pretty much by definition. —- I am 100% percent convinced that there are fundamentalist christians or islamists or whatever who would read that re-written comment as go “oh yeah, that makes complete sense”.