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They mention a handful of services like GOV.UK Notify, GOV.UK Pay, the GOV.UK Design System, the Prototype Kit, and the new GOV.UK Forms product. Is anyone abl
by asib 4y ago
They mention a handful of services like GOV.UK Notify, GOV.UK Pay, the GOV.UK Design System, the Prototype Kit, and the new GOV.UK Forms product.
Is anyone able to clarify whether these things are collectively referred to or considered part of the Gov.uk PaaS offering (and therefore will all be decomissioned) or not? It wasn't clear to me from the article and I'm not otherwise familiar.
- johneth 4y agoI think the PaaS does not include them; it's the service for hosting a service.[1] [1] https://www.cloud.service.gov.uk/ https://www.cloud.service.gov.uk/
- bluehatbrit 4y agoMy understanding is those are services various government departments can make use of. Notify being to send notifications to people, Pay to take payments, etc. These are basically SaaS offerings from GDS to over government departments. The GOV.UK PaaS is a hosting platform for other government departments to host their own software in the GOV.UK managed platform (like a Heroku kind of thing). They're investing more in their SaaS services (Notify, Pay, Forms, Prototyping Kit, etc) and deprecating their PaaS offering in favour of Kubernetes, which looks like it may be offered as a managed service for government departments to use. It reads to me like more of a v2 of the PaaS but it'll now be kube based rather than whatever homegrown thing it is at the moment. Edit: as tnwhitwell pointed out below, the PaaS being deprecated uses CloudFoundry and isn't homegrown.
- tnwhitwell 4y agoJust a small correction, it’s not a homegrown thing, but a CloudFoundry deployment with a bunch of tooling around it
- bluehatbrit 4y agoAh yes I missed that bit, thanks for the correction.
- boffbowsh 4y agoThose were originally part of the GaaP (Government as a Platform) programme. The PaaS is explicitly just the Cloud Foundry-based deployment platform.
- dbbk 4y agoNo PaaS is only the hosting
- severalbadgers 4y agoNotify, Pay, Design System, Prototype Kit and Forms are unaffected by this news.
- 4ndrewl 4y agoThey're not, no. Think of PaaS as like Heroku, whereas Notify us more like Sendgrid (ie a SaaS) and DesignSysten is like MaterialUI. Most services are not using PaaS, but are deployed onto AWS or Azure and integrate with other services (notably Notify) via APIs.
- revjx 4y agoWe use GovPaas for a few things. GovPaas provides the platform which we deploy our applications onto (under the hood it's Cloud Foundry). It is incredibly cheap for our use cases (as it turns out, unsustainably so for the team who provide it!). Our interpretation of this news is that we will need to migrate away to another platform.