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Is there any Europe-based PaaS currently operating, that are noteworthy? Most companies seems to be US-based.

yannski 4y ago
Scalingo https://scalingo.com https://scalingo.com is basically a french Heroku-compatible PaaS based on a reliable french IaaS (Outscale, cloud subsidiary of Dassault Systemes, the famous maker of Catia, Solidworkds, etc)
netgusto 4y ago
There's https://scalingo.com/ https://scalingo.com/ Works well.
eastbound 4y ago
Is OVH a PaaS?
- jonatron 4y ago
  If Managed Kubernetes counts as a PaaS, maybe? https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-gb/public-cloud/kubernetes/ https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-gb/public-cloud/kubernetes/
- OriPekelman 4y ago
  Well they have many offerings one of which is a PaaS https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ie/web-paas/ https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ie/web-paas/
tazjin 4y ago
Yandex, I guess. You also have a variety of smaller providers hosting OpenStack, which gives you some platformy services.
- Hamuko 4y ago
  If you count Russia to be European, which is debatable from both a cultural and a geographical perspective. Yandex only has one data center outside of Russia/definitely in Europe, and last I heard, they needed 600,000€ worth of diesel per day to keep it running.
  - trasz 4y ago
    Russia is definitely not European from business perspective; it’s closer to North Korea now.
fbn79 4y ago
Lidl (germany supermarket company) backed STACKIT? https://www.stackit.de/en/cloud/products-services/ https://www.stackit.de/en/cloud/products-services/
harry-wood 4y ago
Memset is based in the UK. Used them a few years back, but I'm afraid we moved to AWS after a few too many reliability issues.
rorymalcolm 4y ago
I feel the biggest PaaS offerrings in Europe are internal deployments within the enterprise!
sofixa 4y ago
There's Scaleway that provide managed Kubernetes and also "serverless" (containers or functions as a service, based on Knative).
chadwcarlson 4y ago
Platform.sh is another (employee here). We're a French PaaS and DevOps platform. So we provide hosting, but also every bit of operations needed to provision infrastructure and true staging environments for every pull request/branch with just a `git branch`. We work with Azure, GCP, AWS for 9+ regions across the globe, many of those in Europe. This has allowed us to also provide the backend for OVHCloud's WebPaaS (https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-gb/web-paas/ https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-gb/web-paas/) behind-the-scenes.
jeromenerf 4y ago
"Europe based": yes, we are french. "Currently operating": yes, steadily, for seven years now. "Noteworthy": yes, I really hope we are, at least, we have been quite newsworthy recently "Most companies seems to be US-based": well, we have US employees and we are running on top of US based companies infrastructure, amongst others. o/ -- platform.sh
- capableweb 4y ago
  "If I sign up to your service and deploy stuff to one of your Europe-based data centers, will my data ever land on a US-based company's servers?" [______] Edit: Apparently not! Didn't even have to sign up to the service (just loaded the landing page) and my data ended up on some US-based (Google) entity's servers (fonts.googleapis.com). Looks like a nice platform, unfortunately doesn't seem too privacy-aware so gonna have to find something else.
  - genousti 4y ago
    It will. As long as the company does business in the us then american governmenet can force access to data hosted somewhere else. They did it in the past theyll do it again
Veen 4y ago
I understand the intent of the question, but in this case a UK-based alternative would be preferable, not just a European alternative. The UK is more likely to find itself at odds with France than the U.S. That thought reminds me of a conversation in an episode of Yes Prime Minister: > Hacker: I sometimes wonder why we need the [nuclear] weapons. > Sir Humphrey: Minister! You're not a unilateralist? > Hacker: I sometimes wonder, you know. > Sir Humphrey: Well, then, you must resign from the government! > Hacker: Ah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not that unilateralist! Anyway, the Americans will always protect us from the Russians, won't they? > Sir Humphrey: Russians? Who's talking about the Russians? > Hacker: Well, the independent deterrent. > Sir Humphrey: It's to protect us against the French!
- capableweb 4y ago
  > but in this case a UK-based alternative would be preferable For you maybe, but not for me :) I just took advantage of the threat to ask a slightly unrelated question (although parent mentioned Ireland as well, so maybe slightly on topic at least)

Scalingo https://scalingo.com https://scalingo.com is basically a french Heroku-compatible PaaS based on a reliable french IaaS (Outscale, cloud subsidiary of Dassault Systemes, the famous maker of Catia, Solidworkds, etc)

netgusto 4y ago

There's https://scalingo.com/ https://scalingo.com/ Works well.

eastbound 4y ago

Is OVH a PaaS?

jonatron 4y ago
If Managed Kubernetes counts as a PaaS, maybe? https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-gb/public-cloud/kubernetes/ https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-gb/public-cloud/kubernetes/
OriPekelman 4y ago
Well they have many offerings one of which is a PaaS https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ie/web-paas/ https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ie/web-paas/

tazjin 4y ago

Yandex, I guess. You also have a variety of smaller providers hosting OpenStack, which gives you some platformy services.

Hamuko 4y ago
If you count Russia to be European, which is debatable from both a cultural and a geographical perspective. Yandex only has one data center outside of Russia/definitely in Europe, and last I heard, they needed 600,000€ worth of diesel per day to keep it running.
- trasz 4y ago
  Russia is definitely not European from business perspective; it’s closer to North Korea now.

fbn79 4y ago

Lidl (germany supermarket company) backed STACKIT? https://www.stackit.de/en/cloud/products-services/ https://www.stackit.de/en/cloud/products-services/

harry-wood 4y ago

Memset is based in the UK. Used them a few years back, but I'm afraid we moved to AWS after a few too many reliability issues.

rorymalcolm 4y ago

I feel the biggest PaaS offerrings in Europe are internal deployments within the enterprise!

sofixa 4y ago

There's Scaleway that provide managed Kubernetes and also "serverless" (containers or functions as a service, based on Knative).

chadwcarlson 4y ago

Platform.sh is another (employee here). We're a French PaaS and DevOps platform. So we provide hosting, but also every bit of operations needed to provision infrastructure and true staging environments for every pull request/branch with just a `git branch`. We work with Azure, GCP, AWS for 9+ regions across the globe, many of those in Europe. This has allowed us to also provide the backend for OVHCloud's WebPaaS (https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-gb/web-paas/ https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-gb/web-paas/) behind-the-scenes.

jeromenerf 4y ago

"Europe based": yes, we are french. "Currently operating": yes, steadily, for seven years now. "Noteworthy": yes, I really hope we are, at least, we have been quite newsworthy recently "Most companies seems to be US-based": well, we have US employees and we are running on top of US based companies infrastructure, amongst others. o/ -- platform.sh

capableweb 4y ago
"If I sign up to your service and deploy stuff to one of your Europe-based data centers, will my data ever land on a US-based company's servers?" [______] Edit: Apparently not! Didn't even have to sign up to the service (just loaded the landing page) and my data ended up on some US-based (Google) entity's servers (fonts.googleapis.com). Looks like a nice platform, unfortunately doesn't seem too privacy-aware so gonna have to find something else.
- genousti 4y ago
  It will. As long as the company does business in the us then american governmenet can force access to data hosted somewhere else. They did it in the past theyll do it again

Veen 4y ago

I understand the intent of the question, but in this case a UK-based alternative would be preferable, not just a European alternative. The UK is more likely to find itself at odds with France than the U.S. That thought reminds me of a conversation in an episode of Yes Prime Minister: > Hacker: I sometimes wonder why we need the [nuclear] weapons. > Sir Humphrey: Minister! You're not a unilateralist? > Hacker: I sometimes wonder, you know. > Sir Humphrey: Well, then, you must resign from the government! > Hacker: Ah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not that unilateralist! Anyway, the Americans will always protect us from the Russians, won't they? > Sir Humphrey: Russians? Who's talking about the Russians? > Hacker: Well, the independent deterrent. > Sir Humphrey: It's to protect us against the French!

capableweb 4y ago
> but in this case a UK-based alternative would be preferable For you maybe, but not for me :) I just took advantage of the threat to ask a slightly unrelated question (although parent mentioned Ireland as well, so maybe slightly on topic at least)