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> Ukraine has been a major defeat for NATO. In a war everybody loses. Blowing up buildings and killing people how could that not be a defeat for everybody. Th
by galaxyLogic 4y ago
> Ukraine has been a major defeat for NATO.
In a war everybody loses. Blowing up buildings and killing people how could that not be a defeat for everybody. The question is who started it? Who is the aggressor?
- WastingMyTime89 4y agoI remain a Clausewitzian at heart. War is the continuation of politics. When the dust will settle, the situation between both side will have been altered in way which couldn’t be reached diplomatically and at this point I think the end result seems more favorable to Russia than the west.
- galaxyLogic 4y agoPolitics is ok. Starting politics is ok. Starting a war is not ok. It is a crime to start a war.
- WastingMyTime89 4y agoCountries start wars all the time. The USA started four since I was born including one outside of the international framework which would have given it a thin veneer of legitimacy. I dislike wars as much as anyone else. They are a waste of resources especially when they drag for no reason. But they are more or less a fact of life. What matter is understanding whose interests they serve and why they are waged so we can build the conditions of a stable peace. Ideals are not going to get you far in international politics but they certainly are an easy string to tug on for propaganda purpose.